Ketron SD1000 and vArranger

Posted by: DAN.2000

Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/04/13 11:46 AM

Hey....
Already 2 days with the new SD1000....
Just added the SD1000 sounds to vArranger smile

A BIG improvement since SD2. Sounds are amazing !
Drums , Bass......

Already found 5 bugs. Waiting for Ketron reply smile

Working HARD on it.

The SD1000 IS USB powered. So you just plug a USB cable to the computer, and you are ready to play.

I will try to post a demo video with the SD1000 sounds soon
Posted by: Diki

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 10:14 AM

Try to get a hold of a BK-7m, Dan. A template to run vArranger on that would make for some seriously good sounding styles...
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 11:45 AM

I have a BK5 at home.
It is working well with vArranger, but I am not sure why someone who use BK-7M will buy vArranger. Maybe to play Yamaha styles?
Posted by: miden

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
I have a BK5 at home.
It is working well with vArranger, but I am not sure why someone who use BK-7M will buy vArranger. Maybe to play Yamaha styles?


Exactly Dan - I can not see why one would need BOTH?? Although vA does give some other really useful live tools, like multiple midi marker points available at the touch of a screen button, chord sequencer, lyrics view, chord entry method, splits, bass modes...and all available on the main work screen..no hidden menus to have to navigate on stage...

And using a BK .ins file vA recalls sounds easily..

Still, it does seem a bit of "overkill" and the need for TWO devices, a laptop/pc and the bk7m.

Dennis
Posted by: Diki

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 11:58 AM

Exactly. The main reason to have a software arranger over a hardware one is to be able to easily play a wide variety of different manufacturers styles.

If vArranger could play Ketron, Korg and Yamaha styles into a BK-7m (or any other sound source) and map them well enough so that they played decently, it would be a no-brainer!

Not much point using vArranger to play Roland styles into a Roland arranger module, is there? LOL
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 12:51 PM

Actually, this will work good to play tyros styles with roland sounds.
If you want, I will record some yamaha styles with roland bk5.
Posted by: Diki

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 06/05/13 09:15 PM

I guess the main thing is dealing with those pesky Mega Voice style Parts. Not to mention, the newer Yamaha's have a guitar NTT now, and can use the SA voices in styles. How well is that stuff translating?

I'd like, if your stuff can do it, to hear any of the new styles in the S950 (not the audio drums styles, though, obviously!) run into a BK-7m or BK-5. Older styles don't really throw up the challenges to translation that the newer stuff does...
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 01:24 PM

I got the Ketron SD1000 yesterday. It does not operate on USB power. It requires the AC adapter, Suppose it might be defective?
Posted by: Torch

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 02:49 PM

Dan,
How the Ketron SD1000 compare with the SD4 in terms of sound quality?

Chris
Posted by: cgiles

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 03:02 PM

OMG. For a second there I thought Diki had risen like a phoenix from the ashes.....and then I spotted the date of his post. Whew!

smile smile

chas
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 04:02 PM

It's strange. Many SD1000 owners told me that it does not power from USB. (Especially in USA?)
Someone just changed the USB cable, and it was ok.
Someone had to send it back.

The SD1000 has new sounds in every categories. You can hear to my youtube demos.
You can get a better sound with the SD1000, but also need to rework your files, and remix them a bit
Posted by: Mockie

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 04:31 PM

Originally Posted By: cgiles
OMG. For a second there I thought Diki had risen like a phoenix from the ashes.....and then I spotted the date of his post. Whew!

smile smile

chas


Is Diki still "with us"

Frank
Posted by: DonM

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 08:21 PM

Diki is alive and well on both Roland and Korg forums. (Fora if you want to be correct.)
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/24/15 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: DonM
Diki is alive and well on both Roland and Korg forums. (Fora if you want to be correct.)


Yes, and he actually is an asset to those boards. he is very good at putting things in perspective..
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 02:45 AM

Someone else in USA, told me that his SD1000 was USB powered for 2 weeks, then no more...
Posted by: abacus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 06:01 AM

Been looking at a few sites and I can’t find any that say the SD1000 can be powered by USB alone (Its purely used for Midi) but has to be used with the external power supply, (Remember the power output of USB 2 is very small) so it’s hardly surprising it doesn’t work correctly without the power supply.

Bill
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 06:03 AM

SOME of the sounds are pretty good (better.) I primarily use it with Band in a Box, and notice the volumes among patches vary WIDELY. Also the default reverb is off the hook, and if I lower it, I have to choose either a right or left channel, as the center goes quiet. So far, not nearly as consistent as the SD4.

I'll try a new cable for the USB power. My SD4 ONLY worked off USB after awhile. I am getting the main board replaced. My WX7, SurfacePro 3 and Roland Amp ALL run with just batteries. I really don't want to be restricted to AC just for a sound module (no matter HOW good it sounds.)
Posted by: abacus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 06:38 AM

Lack of power from the USB socket is the problem, (If you look at a lot of USB HDD they have 2 USB Type A Plugs thus doubling the power to the drive) however adaptors are available that can combine the power of 2 USB sockets, so it may be worth trying one of those. Here is one example http://www.pccables.com/70650.htm

Hope this helps

Bill
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 07:05 AM

It seems to be more a problem of the SD1000 than the computer
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 07:16 AM

I am thinking that. The SD2 and SD4 had no need for a multi USB adapter (though, ys many HDD drives do.) Anyway, My Surface Pro 3 only has one USB 3 socket, so I'd be S.O.L. anyway...
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 08:42 AM

Just blew $40 on a brand new shielded USB cable. No dice.
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 09:21 AM

Poor you. I think one SD1000 should go back to Italy, so they will understand more the problem. But for now, no one want to send back its SD1000 smile
Posted by: fozzie

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 10:04 AM

SD1000 is powered by external power supply, not USB.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/25/15 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: fozzie
SD1000 is powered by external power supply, not USB.


This, is 100% correct, Ketron does not support the SD1000 working over usb powered connector, they just can not guarantee it working, be ause it uses more power then the USB interface maximum supports...

Just look up the power consumtion of the SD1000 and then have a look at the USB port specs... If it works for you, then you are lucky..
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/26/15 03:01 AM

So I am Luky, My SD1000 is USB powered with all the computers I own.

Someone had 2 SD1000. One was ok, and the other not, in the same computer...
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/26/15 06:44 AM

I was informed that the SD1000 requires 5v. S.O.L. Had I know that I probably would not have purchased it. I guess I'll still keep it for desktop use, but will now also need t keep the SD4 for portable situations.
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/26/15 07:04 AM

Phillyjazz, do you know vArranger? It is an amazing software for the SD1000 ! smile
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/26/15 07:15 AM

For the good news, I did the first test with the 64 bit version of vArranger.

I have tested to load 5GB of SF2 samples + some 64 Bit VST instruments, and all seems to work ok !!
Posted by: leeboy

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/26/15 12:12 PM

I have pretty good luck with vA2 with SD-1000.
But my issue is...WHEN will Ketron fix the identified bugs??
Also, Mine...the power switch from brand new out of the box will not stay in...so AJ is supposed to get me a replacement SD-1000
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/27/15 05:21 AM

Dan : Yes, I have seen the videos and gone to the website. Looks great, but I have a big investment in Band in a Box (100s of styles and thousands of tunes.) Would love to have vArranger even just for the interface, but can;t afford it right now after dropping so much on the SD1000. I'll save my pennies. I would love to get it for the patch management alone in live situations, I also have a boatload of SoundFonts, so it would be good for that purpose too, on my Windows tablet. I could probably get away with not carrying a module.
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/27/15 06:24 AM

vArranger also own a very nice low latency virtual synthesizer that can run directly on the Surface pro 3 headphones out, it can load soundfonts and apply VST effects in realtime, and play VST instruments together.

Take your time For now, to enjoy your first investment...
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/27/15 06:40 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
For the good news, I did the first test with the 64 bit version of vArranger.

I have tested to load 5GB of SF2 samples + some 64 Bit VST instruments, and all seems to work ok !!


64 bit is awesome news, and a must in the current PC computer world... all top VSTs you want to run in 64 bit..

Keep it up man, this is another great step to proffesionalising your product
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/27/15 06:42 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
vArranger also own a very nice low latency virtual synthesizer that can run directly on the Surface pro 3 headphones out, it can load soundfonts and apply VST effects in realtime, and play VST instruments together.

Take your time For now, to enjoy your first investment...


The examples i have heared from this with the upgraded soundset created by a user are just stunning, hope they somehow will make it intoo your product
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 02/27/15 08:22 AM

Thanks for your encouragements smile
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/09/15 06:45 AM

Just to let you know that vArranger synth 64 bit is released
You can load more than 4GB of SF2 samples and 64 bit VST plugins
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/09/15 06:45 AM

Not sure if I said it already, but it handle the polyphonic aftertouch too
Posted by: leeboy

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/09/15 06:51 AM

Dan,
Does that mean my vA2 can now if I get the recent version from you, have a BETTER built in vA2 Synth engine/sounds...or is this just if I would use a VSTi I buy??
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/09/15 07:57 AM

No. To get better sounds you simply need to load some free soundfonts.

On the vArranger forum we share some soundfonts
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/09/15 08:51 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
Not sure if I said it already, but it handle the polyphonic aftertouch too


Dan, i am impressed, you work fast... very fast..


Mind sharing with us whats next in your priority list?


Might be time soon for us to announce the Varranger as the first software TOTL arranger.
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 02:38 AM

I have a list with 1000 items to add smile
So many ideas, not decided yet what next
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 06:12 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
I have a list with 1000 items to add smile
So many ideas, not decided yet what next


I hope a beginner, & advanced in-depth Tutorial DVD is part of that list that can fully instruct the buyer how it all works step by step. confused1
Posted by: DAN.2000

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 06:19 AM

wow, I m so lazy for such things......
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 07:19 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
wow, I m so lazy for such things......


Dan a DVD Instructional should be Top Priority as knowledge is what in turn will bring sales IMO.....alot of people have no clue what vArranger is or how it works?.......when people see things they like, .....they BUY things they like....just sayin'..
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 08:26 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
I have a list with 1000 items to add smile
So many ideas, not decided yet what next


When i look at my T5, there is one thing i would really really miss on the Varranger...

Registrations : when i select a new style it comes with 8 registrations, and in registrations you can change everything, from sounds, to midi settings to style parts and volumes, mains and fills, pedal settings... You name it and you can change it... It allows me to set up registrations in a performance. Here is a good example of the possiblities.. Fred has more videos about the registrations on Tyros



Set List : the Kronos has a set list, this allows you to create a playlist for your gigs.. This adds all your precreated performances on a list in order for your gig... On top of that it is easilly accesible for real time changes.. I think a set list is a must have for any giging artist
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/10/15 08:37 AM

Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
wow, I m so lazy for such things......


Maybe there would be people willing to help you out with this .... You dont have to do everything yourself, espescially with things like this its often possible to find community members that are both willing and capable of helping you out with this for free...

There are enough people making tutorials for other products..so why not for Varranger.. Would be a fun challenge to make a range of varranger tutorials explaining the features of the software into detail, and then uograding that series of videos with every few major changes you make to the software..
Posted by: leeboy

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 03/14/15 02:16 PM

Bachus,
There is a ton of things you would miss on your T5
Posted by: phillyjazz

Re: Ketron SD1000 and vArranger - 05/14/15 07:52 AM

I found a "workaround" .. not a "fix" for powering the Ketron SD1000 when the MIDI port won't provide enough juice. $60 is not a cheap workaround, but this comes with a 9v cable that fits EXACTLY into the SD1000 and lights it up. Also can recharge smartphones, tablets, an even some laptops. Actually, with the right cable, it could probably jump-start your CAR !!

http://amzn.to/1cAdigT