Help needed for drums on Yamaha PSR-750/950

Hi,

As you may have read I recently purchased the PSR-S750 in addition to my PA800. Not sure though it will be a keeper as I have always been struggling with Yamaha arrangers. Here is the catch:
With Korg arrangers ( and even more so with Ketron) you can adjust the drums on the fly while playing etc. Within a drumset you can mute certain parts e.g. the hi-hat or the (dominant) bassdrum, etc. you can even decide individual volumes for each item in the drumset, etc.) With the PSR drumsets you are limited in as far as I know to what the drumset offers and you cannot influence them. I find it often annoying going into 2 or 3 variation that all hell breaks loose so to speak with the arrival of the bass and snaredrums. I guess there is no way around it, but if there is I would beseech those who are aware of it to let me know.
Also perhaps has anyone got "light " drum sets available.
By light I mean a drumset that has lots of brushes, congas, shakers etc. but no (or no heavy) bassdrums and snares.......
Wonder if anyone can help me out here.

regards,
John

Wishing somebody professionally talk about that.

There are lots of drum kits in the keyboard - why not just modify the style with one of the more subdued kits, brush, etc, then save the style file to a custom name.

Good Luck,

Gary

You can also leave the style alone, and change the drumkit in the song registration that calls up the style.

If you are going to edit the style you can create a different drum for each section using the style editor.

You can somewhat adjust the drum part within a style

Mixing Console / RHY2 / Filter / Harmonic Content /

By increasing the Harmonic Content, you may be surprised by how much more brushes sound 'out front' while the snares, toms, and bass drums are more subdued. Find the right setting, and save as a style or reg.

And of course you could always use your favorite Korg/Yamaha setup...pair your PA800 with the S950.

Gary
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If you are going to edit the style you can create a different drum for each section using the style editor. [/quote]

How do I do that on the PSR -750 ? Must have missed something here or be too used to Korg's programming. Can I re-arrange a drumset for example by leaving out the bassdrum ?

Larry and Gary, thanks but those solutions are not what I am looking for. Perhaps someone has drumkits for the PSR that are more subdued like the ones you would expect in UNPLUGGED STYLES. That is the kind of feel that I am looking for.

regards,
John

Hi John,

Only the Tyros 4 has individual drum part editing of each part in a single drum track.

All u can do with the PSR is EQ and add effects to the entire track. u can however customise a style to create multiple drum tracks that each have different Volumes and parameters.
example: Drum Track 1 - bass kick only.
Drum Track 2 - snares and hi hats
Drum Track 3 - brushes and so forth - but u are still limited to a total of 8 tracks per style - so u will be sacrificing other style parts.

Nick

thanks Nick, that seems like an option worth trying. I already suspected the drums could not be "manipulated " the way they can in e.g. the Tyros 4, let alone the KOrgs. In this respect the KOrgs (and Ketron better still ) are and have been light years ahead of Yamaha. Nevermind, I still have got the PA800 !!!

regards,
John

Hello Gary,

Apparently you are extremely familiar with programming on all kinds of PSR models ( I just joined the Yamaha PSR tutorial site on which you are very active). Also read about the thousands and thousands of styles that you have, but my question would be in view of my question at the beginning of this thread:
Would you have any number od drumsets (to be loaded in the user area or via the USB) that would add to the 23 internal drumsets of the PSR750 and which are in the "easy listening department " like unplugged, percussive, etc.etc. If so I would be grateful if you could share those with me.

regards,
John

John have you tried to manually record the drums via multitracks if your doing a recording vs using a style....yes it's more difficult & time consuming but you will achieve a much better live feel for your song in the long run. Or try to create your own style using drum sounds of your choice in style creator after all that's what it's for correct? Korgs backing track recorder is very good at this..

John,

Sorry I'm just getting back to you. All the drum kits I have are within the keyboard, which in my case is the PSR-3000. However, you can go into style creator and utilizing the mixing console, do some incredible changes using the effects and EQs, then save the style as a custom/third-party style.

First and foremost, I would adjust the global EQ for the keyboard - it alone will do some amazing things to the overall sound, including the drums.

Now, set the EQs to the following:
EQ1 = 5
EQ2 = 4
EQ3 = 2
EQ4 = 4
EQ5 = 8

Next, press the Store1 button on the right side of the display. This will make these settings default each time you turn on the keyboard, or decide to change them and store them again.

You can also change the freq and compression settings on the same page, but I find that most of the time they can be left at default with good results.

Hope this helps,

Gary


Press the mixing console button, then tab to EQ.

Next, using the "B" button on the left side of the display, scroll down to User1, then press the Edit button on the upper right side of the display. This opens the 5-band EQ section.

Thanks Gary and Donny,

Your homeworkd was easily done Gary and I must say so far so good !! Donny, I will get into this stuff you are mentioning during the next few days.

Still have a Behringer Midi controller with sliders and knobs to install and work with my PA800 and possibly with the PSR !!!

thanks again for all your feedback,

John

Glad I could help, John,

Gary