Wholly Crap! This is how an arranger can be part of something superb!

Tyros Twin, in a group with drummer and lead guitar.

This IMHO is the best I have ever heard using a Tyros 3......

Great instruments, PRO players, great sound system....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWhbEzDrQ4g&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWWCdv7DMA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Here is the Tyros 3 twin by itself...I think I will build one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALCO5CAPZi8&feature=related

Not perfect playing...but I find it very interesting..anyone else?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgHR2SpdrWs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Lee S.

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Not my cup of tea. Reminds me a bad experance I had once in a elevator

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James...you mean the Tyros twin or the whole peformance?

You really think it was that bad....?

Some of the sounds on the Tyros twin sounded pretty darn good...I don't think the equivelant on the PA2 are as good.

Lee S.

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I was just thinking, why does he use an arranger in this setting? Seems... well a bit redundant.

DocZ

Couldn't agree more. Still, I'm glad YOU said it instead of me.

On a secondary note, that's a lot of money (twin T3) to get THAT sound. I think I'd rather hear a really good player on a harmonica.........or even, gasp, an AccordiOn (nod if you're out there, Tony ).

chas

I think the Tyros Mod looks great, very well done in fact. It's the performance that would not be my cup of tea.



I don't think I'd say it's bad, as in they suck. What I feel when listening to this is that they have been doing it far too long and they are fed up with doing it themselves. It just sounded so very tired to me and lacked all traces of motivation.

I'm very open minded when it comes to music. You can play songs I totally hate and I can still appreciate the music from a technical point. However, if your performance lacks any effort or motivation at all.... well... that's it for me. I can't stand people just going through the motions.

Only my 2 cents though.

Regards
James

Appreciate your input...but...Boy you guys must be at Elton John's level?? I think this is just a club for dinner etc? Not sure what country there in.

The T3 on the first song (sunny side of the steet) you don't think it sounds great?
The Organ, Sax, Vibes...
Listen to it again?

My whole post is that the T3 sounds good in the overall sound...not that these guys are God's gift to music. The T3 sound was what I liked.

Do you think a Motif would have sounded better? IMHO not. That Sax kicks ass.

If I were in that club having dinner, I would have enjoyed their performances.

After listening to all the songs they/he played...I doubt 90% of all arragnger players (home keyboard players) are 1/2 as good as the guy on the Tyros.

All he's done is take a T3 ($3,000) added a MIDI kbd ($300) and built a cabinet (time $ maybe $300 in materials) Pretty cool.

I guess that's why music is so subjective. Most, maybe 80% of the songs today on the radio I can't stand for example...but someone likes them.

Lee S.



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The one that I noticed immediately was a fairly obvious hum from improper grounding of the amp to the recording device.

The guy playing the keyboard is pretty darned good. Keep in mind that he's using it as a multifaceted instrument and making some pretty quick changes on the fly. Overall, the band is very entertaining--especially for old codgers such as myself.

Cheers,

Gary

Gary,
Yep, I noticed the hum too....overlooked it as the sound of the Tyros Twin was my focus.

BUT I still think the T3 sounded pretty darn good Don't know of any Synth he could have used to do any better.

Not bad at all for, as you say, us old codgers (I'm 62). But my kids and grandkids would hate it.

Did you listen to his solos? Not perfect but sounds were good and he is decent player.

Lee S.

I loved it Lee. Great playing and great sound. Thanks for that. Shows that the Tyros 3 can do much more than just be an arranger keyboard. Loved the organ and sax sound. I use a Motif 6 with my classic rock band but it doesn't come close to that. Maybe I should consider the Tyros myself when I next upgrade. It would be nice to have a keyboard that could work in a band yet be an arranger in other situations.




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I loved his playing .... and to be honest the best solos are those that aren't perfect. It is the human imperfections and improv that make for the best solos.

Nigel,
Thanks for the comments...I thought I had suddely gotten a poor tast for music. :-)

No, it's not perfect..neither am I or most players I hear...it got me exicited for the reaon you said....just beacause it is an arranger, does not mean it is not a great sounding synh as well. I thought the mix was pretty good too.

I have contacted him to see if he will share some of the tech. stuff he did to make it all work. I can build the cabinet...my good friend is a cabinet maker!

Maybe, just, Maybe I get my...so to speak, Yamaha Staga after all....:-)

That's what I really want, but it can't happen here in USA.

Lee S.

That Tyros sounds fab. I think they should have their guitar player stand up and when he takes a ride, somehow, do something that brings attention to himself... like take a step forward or shine a spotlight on him or something. So that is apparent that there are real players there, not canned music. And same for the drummer.

I agree with Nigel about the solos--they show the humanistic quality of the performance. The sax is definitely a winner to my ears, however, I would like to hear comments from Randy (Saxman) on this aspect.

Cheers,

Gary

I think it is a great sound overall, although they use some midi backing. Look at Diana and Beautiful Rose of the Morning. This is used on some vocals at least. I am not downgrading them, just an observation.

No disrespect. Obviously these guys can play.
Would be cool to have more energy in the guys themselves. Playing ability is only a part of a performance. But hey who am I to judge.

Personally I think he could get away with a lot of those sounds on the new Motif XF - that thing sounds amazing! Even for acoustic instruments. That one is far more than just another synth. And that would release the band from the style. But I'm not saying that they sound bad at all. Hey I'm just 31 and I love this kind of music. I grew up with it - I can't play much of it, but I love it.

When they came to "Sweet Georgia Brown" they let themselves more loose.

But I would love to hear and see them kick the music stands away and just jam out.

The hum could be from a computer if they recorded on a laptop. But I see that red pilot light behind the guitarist - maybe a Fender Deluxe or similar - could be the source of the hum.

What worries me more is the extremely anoying microphone feedback on the vocals "Geh nicht in die Stadt". They might be pro players - but are certainly not pro sound engineers.

And I can't tell if they are running double drums, running the tyros drums on an auxiliary output utilizing it as a "click track" for the drummer, or just muting the drums and using only the percussion track. The drums don't sound like the standard Roland kit either - maybe they've midied them back to the Tyros? That would be clever.
Or maybe they have practiced so much that the drummer know the styles by heart.

Anyways I think it is pretty cool.
And kudos on the cabinet build - that's awesome.

DocZ

These guys weren't bad.


However these guys are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeMDvCdrtc

They need a Tyros! And some help from Antares....


DocZ

The thing is...he can play with the rest of the guys (Yep, more enthusiasum would be good) OR he can play one-man-band all with the Tyros Twin. If they were playing for a wedding or dance I think they would be different...my thinking is this is a supper club deal.

Tough to do on, say a Motif, Fantom, or a Kurz PC3 by itself.

And, I have not heard a better Sax on any synth.

Lee S.

The problem is that you cannot tell for sure what the keyboard guy is playing. Look at the beginning of Sweet Georgia Brown. That is a backing track. He is not playing that piano intro. The sax may be canned too.

The piano, guitar comp (the mellow one far in the background), bass, organ pads and percussion are all part of the style. And the more I listen to it, the more I believe that the drums are midi'ed back to the Tyros. That's a Roland TD-20SX (Pretty nice! Would love one myself actually).

Nothing wrong with this setup though, I think it's pretty clever.

Is this a club? Or is this one of the guys garage converted to a sanctuary of coolness?

And I would love to find out where they got those lightsaber lights! They are AWESOME!!!! WOULD LOVE THOSE IN MY NEW STUDIO!

DocZ

They are horrible. The drum solo sounds like the drummer carried a snare, a high hat and 2 toms and then fell off the stairs.!

I love it when the sound guy comes to check out the monitor, as if that what's wrong

You gotta love the keyboard part and guitar solo though....

NOT

DocZ

You gotta love Joey Tempest's comments (The lead singer in Europe)

He is quite the diplomat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKWhfpgHpE&feature=related

What is amazing is 2.5 million hits! I think this will lead to a new trend in the recording industry. Bad is in!

DocZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

Donny,
Not bad for an all girl band.
Lee S.

Leeboy,
I am Sure it will not surprise you to know,that Gerald also plays a wicked Sax.

Gilbert.