Yamaha PA-301 adapter

Posted by: cassp

Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/16/10 02:18 PM

Can anyone tell me what they are using for a backup adapter for their PSR keyboards? Isee the PA-301 for $139 and then see HOng Kong specials for $13.99. I can't find anything in between and no one seems to have any in stock. Help?
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/16/10 03:18 PM

Cass
I bought this one for my piano player. It said it replaced the 301
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-PA150-Adapt...41&sr=1-1-fkmr0
Posted by: cassp

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/16/10 04:29 PM

The specs on the PA150 indicate that it should not be not compatible with the PSR s910.

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Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/16/10 07:16 PM

Cass,

I picked up a $13 Hong Kong adapter for a friend and it works like a charm. He has used it every day for nearly six months without a glitch.

Gary
Posted by: cassp

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/17/10 01:36 PM

Thanks, Gary. It looks like I will go that route also.
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/17/10 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Bernie9:
Cass
I bought this one for my piano player. It said it replaced the 301
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-PA150-Adapt...41&sr=1-1-fkmr0


Cass I just ordered one thru Amazon, haven't received it yet, but as it turns out JR Electronics and Music in NYC is the dealer its coming from. JR has a great return policy just in case.
Posted by: cassp

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 06:55 AM

Here is a Q&A exchange from one of the eBay Hong Kong distributors. I really don't knw if we ubderstand each other because I would think that little of an amperage difference would be negligible. But anyway, here goes... what say YOU?

From cassp-
Original PA301 states DC output as 4a, your unit lists DC output as 1-3.5a. Will this affect the operation of the keyboard?

From distributor-
Thank you for your inquiry.
Yes,this item output is 2-3.5A and it`s different with your device .it will affect the operation . Thank you very much.

STEVE - let me know how that works out. I'd rather buy from J&R than risk waiting for the wrong part from overseas.



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Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 08:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cassp:

From cassp-

STEVE - let me know how that works out. I'd rather buy from J&R than risk waiting for the wrong part from overseas.

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Will do.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 08:33 AM

I wouldnt take the chance on burning out your KB.. .....
just buy another "CORRECT" model Yamaha Adapter PA300/301
Posted by: cassp

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 09:36 AM

...and that adapter would be available where and at what price???

The Hong Kong adapters claim to be replacements for the 300 series, but the Amperage is a little off. Don't we have a resicednt geek who can tell us what is safe and what isn't?
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 09:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
I wouldnt take the chance on burning out your KB.. .....
just buy another "CORRECT" model Yamaha Adapter PA300/301


Donny good advice, I'm going to check the specs out b4 I plug that sucker in.
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 02:12 PM

I found the specs on the PA-300/301 power supply, and it is rated 2.4-amps, NOT 4-amps. You may want to double check that power rating. The Hong Kong power supplies were rated to 3.5-amps, which is much heavier duty than Yamaha's power supply. Essentially, they are all just modified, laptop, computer power supplies. As for damaging the keyboard--not likely.

Gary

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Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 02:37 PM

I have understood that it doesn't hurt to go a little over, but not under. Is that right Gary ?
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
Donny good advice, I'm going to check the specs out b4 I plug that sucker in.



Expensive instrument and you want to risk major damage with a non recomended power supply voiding the warranty I might add...just to save a few bucks?........
I hope nothing happenes Steve.

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Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Yamaha PA-301 adapter - 08/18/10 05:22 PM

One of my pet peeves with Yamaha has always been their power supplies for their PSR series. At best, the power rating has been adequate if the volume is kept at reasonable levels. Go above the 3/4 mark and the power supply will overheat.

A good parity of this would be if you had a 50-HP engine in your car and in order to make the car reach 60 MPH you had to hold it to the floor. Yes, it will eventually get to 60, but in the process you'll fry the engine. Now, the same car with a 150 HP engine, which is three times more powerful, will reach 60 with little or no effort, and it can maintain that speed with 2/3 less effort than the 50 HP engine, thus the engine is under less stress and will last much longer.

In electronics, power supplies with a higher rating still supply the correct amount of power to the keyboard. However, it has the ability to supply more current (amperage) if required.

Could you damage the keyboard using a larger power supply? Of course you could, but not because of the power supply sending the wrong voltage or current to the keyboard. You could also damage the keyboard with Yamaha's power supply. Both, however, have overload protect circuitry, which usually (not always) prevents such problems from occurring.

I have a $13 Hong Kong power supply in my gig bag for a spare--just in case my Yamaha PA-300 would happen to fry. This has never happened to me, but it has happened to some members on this and other forums. All of my keyboards are out of warranty, therefore, I don't worry to much about using the Hong Kong supply as a spare. Whether Yamaha would frown on this for a keyboard that is still under warranty is a question Steve Demming would have to answer.

Good Luck,

Gary