BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS....

Posted by: necdetdoni

BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 12:44 AM

Last week i had a trip to Istanbul from Antalya. i bought new ketron's sound system
"ketron 1400"..i will write my impressions soon...
Ketron Turkey distributor said that;ketron labs making a hardware change for audya...they said "board will be replaced in new audya" and also a new "5 octaves model" audya will be on market...
Posted by: mc

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 04:30 AM

I hope they release a 61 note keyboard of the Audya. I prefer 61 keys vs 76 keys. I find that it is easier to transport.

Please lets us know how there speaker line is also.

thanks,
Posted by: Mystic Jammer

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 04:50 AM

I see that as a good news ...

can't be bad news each times a distributor upgrate a keyboard
Posted by: Bachus

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 06:19 AM

New board, as in new board with faster processor and abbundant memmory ?

I think that is a much needed upgrade...
Posted by: Gunnar Jonny

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 07:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Jammer:
I see that as a good news ...

can't be bad news each times a distributor upgrate a keyboard


Maybe good news for those who still not bought Audya,
but bad new for those who just did buy, or?

Cheers
GJ
Posted by: Tonewheeldude

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 07:33 AM

Good choice on the Ketron PA, it is unbelivably good and possibly the best I have ever heard. I believe the sub is based around B&0 equipment? Absolute top quality gear.

Pity you ddn't post this in the Ketron forum though....click..click.

TWD

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Posted by: frankieve

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 07:52 AM

I believe the hardware change were the soundboards, since there was some bad ones that had to be replaced, other than that I don't believe is a major hardware change, so you current Audya owners have the same, nothing performance wise has changed.



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Posted by: frankieve

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 07:54 AM

Yes,

The Ketron speakers have some impressive specs, and with the B&O amps, sound quality should be amazing.

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Posted by: mc

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 08:02 AM

Are these speakers on the market here in the US yet or just europe. You don't have any MAP pricing yet?

thanks

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Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 09:13 AM

Freaking wind up!
Posted by: necdetdoni

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 09:59 AM

yes..sound quality of ketron speakers are realy perfect..clear,powerfull.. and light..i havent used in a gig yet...and price information for those who wonder;i paid 3000€ for ketron 1400
Posted by: Ketron_AJ

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 10:38 AM

Ketron speakers are available for sale in the US. Contact your dealers for pricing.

Thanks,

AJ
Posted by: mc

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 10:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Ketron speakers are available for sale in the US. Contact your dealers for pricing.

Thanks,

AJ


thank you AJ, any plans for a 61 key audya type arranger in the near future? The SD5 is about 3 + years old now.
Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 11:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
I believe the hardware change were the soundboards, since there was some bad ones that had to be replaced, other than that I don't believe is a major hardware change, so you current Audya owners have the same, nothing performance wise has changed.




Don't know about you Frank but I think there is something being lost or confused in the translation about Audya new board, they are getting confused with KB and PCB, I just had ting on ting for ma tea man, what did you have Frank! Hey AJ's back aliens let him go wonder why! Did they let Drumremix go, bet not he's got all the insider info on Audya!!!



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Posted by: frankieve

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 12:04 PM

My sources say that the soundboard will be upgraded which older boards can upgrade too. so that more samples memory can be added.

I'm not sure if that will include new loops or just sound samples.

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Posted by: frankieve

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 12:05 PM

As for the speakers, I will try to do a comparison with

RCF
Mackie
Thump
Bose.

I will let you guys know if I think it's worth the money or not.


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Posted by: leezone

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 01:41 PM

i think the new AUDYA, be it 61key, (SD5 replacement), or module,

will have:

USB 3.0
1TB HD
2GB RAM
"old" AUDYA sounds + some new killer modern sounds.
many new styles
brand new guitar, drum & bass audio loops
Posted by: mc

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
i think the new AUDYA, be it 61key, (SD5 replacement), or module,

will have:

USB 3.0
1TB HD
2GB RAM
"old" AUDYA sounds + some new killer modern sounds.
many new styles
brand new guitar, drum & bass audio loops



As long as it has those killer styles that's all I need. As far as everything else I can work around. I just hope they can drop the price abit.
Posted by: Nedim

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 07:40 PM

A new Audya coming up??? What happened to the old one???
Posted by: DonM

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 09:54 PM

A new Audya isn't coming. A new 61-note board and a module are coming, plus an upgraded sound board that will allow more memory for samples.
Donm
Posted by: leezone

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/03/10 11:27 PM

Don,

how do you know a module is coming?

is that because you are DonM? the M for module?

AUDYA module?
Posted by: Robbo

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 02:43 AM

Before any talk of new modules and keyboards, there should be upgrades avaialable to SD5/SD3.it appears to me that putting the cart before the horse is exactly why Ketron got into trouble with Audya, look after what you have first, whilst developing and releasing a near perfect product. The SD5/3 are screaming for more styles, so come on where are they, i cant believe that buyers would not have to think twice buying an expensive Audya, when you have left us SD5/3 owners on the shelf.
Posted by: mc

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 03:42 AM

I agree, the SD5/3 is realy a great keyboard and they really should have expanded on it. The new drums and guitars really improved from older models. I thought it was going to be slam dunk.

But I don't see cutomers spending $2300 (basic model) with floppy disk, no hard drive, no USB, no vocalizer, no color screen. the hard drive and vocalizer can be added as an option. but then you looking at a $2800-$2900 keyboard.
Posted by: Nedim

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 04:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Robbo:
Before any talk of new modules and The SD5/3 are screaming for basic features updates which other brands have since 10 years ago...like some MIDI Rounting and stuff
Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 06:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:


Nedim,

Not like U stuck for words!
Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 06:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Robbo:
Before any talk of new modules and keyboards, there should be upgrades avaialable to SD5/SD3.it appears to me that putting the cart before the horse is exactly why Ketron got into trouble with Audya, look after what you have first, whilst developing and releasing a near perfect product. The SD5/3 are screaming for more styles, so come on where are they, i cant believe that buyers would not have to think twice buying an expensive Audya, when you have left us SD5/3 owners on the shelf.


Now here is a man who knows what he is talking about. if you all read this and in between the lines the guy is right, he's spotted the Ketron trait! AJ can you make sure Ketron see this, this is the basis of all their problems, that only me and Robbo know about, unless you know different!!!

Cheers Robbo

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Posted by: leezone

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 07:12 AM

when will all this new Ketron stuff drop?

and why is it we saw nothing new from Ketron at this past NAMM?

my guess is it's still a long ways away...

or maybe they did not want to show it off 3 years early like the AUDYA...
Posted by: Bachus

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 07:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
Don,

how do you know a module is coming?

is that because you are DonM? the M for module?

AUDYA module?


Only if the modules has at least the features of the 76 keys board and a USB2 interface then this will be a true asset..

But then keytron in the past has mostly released modules with way less feautures then the top model..

@Robbo and MC :
Why would they spend time releasing stuff for old keyboards like SD3 and SD5, You bought an SD3 or SD5 and should be happy as it is, or be prepared to pay for software updates... Free content updates is so 2009, buiseness models like that are sure to get intoo financial troubles, Free bug fixes for sure but free content updates, no way.. (if keytron wants to survive as a brand they start charging for content updates/expansions) And when there is income from software expansions, they can pay programmers with that money to even create more software updates..


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Posted by: Nedim

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 09:34 AM

Tony, there is an old say in my country:
A fast attentionless bit$h gives birth to Blind Dogs...
In English sounds funny and stupid but it has a meaning...
Posted by: frankieve

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 09:43 AM

Other than a 1 or 2 people here who actually own an Audya, why do you all bitch like you got ripped off? You didn't buy one, your not even thinking of buying one but yet all I read is about how Ketron screwed everyone?

I do agree with Tony because he had a problematic board and got no assitance in getting it taken care of, but that could be part of the dealer fault, the distributor, or who knows.

Remember Ketron is a very very small company, GEM was about the same and they are now gone, so for Ketron to still be around when giants like Korg and Yamaha are dominating, how is that?

Sorry but I can only read so much before I had to give my little rant, i apologize.

I also do not work for Ketron, never got a Ketron for free, never expected to get one for free. I've tried to help people who haven't bought from me, because thier dealers sold them product with little or knowledge and cant help them, which most of the times is simple stuff.

OK back to cave.

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Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 09:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
Other than a 1 or 2 people here who actually own an Audya, why do you all bitch like you got ripped off? You didn't buy one, your not even thinking of buying one but yet all I read is about how Ketron screwed everyone?

I do agree with Tony because he had a problematic board and got no assitance in getting it taken care of, but that could be part of the dealer fault, the distributor, or who knows.

Remember Ketron is a very very small company, GEM was about the same and they are now gone, so for Ketron to still be around when giants like Korg and Yamaha are dominating, how is that?

Sorry but I can only read so much before I had to give my little rant, i apologize.

I also do not work for Ketron, never got a Ketron for free, never expected to get one for free. I've tried to help people who haven't bought from me, because thier dealers sold them product with little or knowledge and cant help them, which most of the times is simple stuff.

OK back to cave.



Frank,

You give it to them, it's like you say you have helped people along the way, I don't know what the outcome is going to be but I might as well just hang on now I think we are getting close to something. People who have not bought one should sit, watch and listen, those who bought Audya are taking all the cash hits, we are the investors in Ketron INC
Posted by: Tony Hughes

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 10:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:
Tony, there is an old say in my country:
A fast attentionless bit$h gives birth to Blind Dogs...
In English sounds funny and stupid but it has a meaning...


Come on Nedim pray do explain I can't work it out. What's a Bit$h ???
Posted by: Tonewheeldude

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 01:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Come on Nedim pray do explain I can't work it out. What's a Bit$h ???


I belive it is a species of humanoid who have become totally dependent on technology, having long since lost all their animalistic traits and instincts. They have atrophied senses of aggression, concentrating their energies into art, music and technology. Physically they are characterized by their large craniums, huge round, lidless eyes, and tiny mouths under their fleshy face folds. They are found throughout the galaxy, from the backwater dives of the Outer Rim Territories, to the Jedi order on Coruscant during the time of the Galactic Republic.
Posted by: Diki

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 01:36 PM

If one's dealer or distributor or manufacturer don't help you, you make more noise to THEM... You threaten them with legal action, you threaten them with exposure of their appalling customer support, you do whatever it takes...

What you DON'T do is none of the above, but come here and make our lives miserable bitching that Ketron aren't coming out with a software upgrade to fix your problems, when it's pretty obvious it ISN'T a software problem. Instead of concentrating on bitching about your dealer's refusal to swap your unit for a functioning one (you DID ask him to do that, didn't you? ), you have made it your mission to cast doubts on the ENTIRE line.

Cast the stone at where it deserves to hit, your dealer, your country's distributor, (even yourself for not bothering to take it back and get your money returned), NOT at every last Audya... I'm all for criticism where it is due, but a campaign like this really needs accuracy of aim, IMO.
Posted by: Robbo

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 03:16 PM

Frank,

I own an SD3, what you say doesn't make sence, why would one go and buy an Audya if you had invested in a SD5/3, surely you can see the parity here from Ketrons view they should have developed the past models along with the new release. Now Aj some time ago said they are developing more styles etc for the SD5/3 but based on what i've seen so far I'll be waiting until I see it b4 I believe it, and it certainly would not be encouraging me to upgrade with Ketron re Audya
Posted by: Mystic Jammer

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 04:41 PM

Lots of Audya Q&A make gave me a couples of questions

Is lots of peoples have problem with Audya or is it just some isolated incident ?

How Audya take care of this s..t, it's verry bad for business ?

How Audya working for other peoples,is the keyboard / module works great, satisfied ?

i got the idea that Audya keyboard is beyound the competition, is it true (i know it's only opinion)

thanks

curious as allways
MJ
Posted by: DonM

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/04/10 09:57 PM

MJ, it has been documented that they've had a few problems. Mine, on the other hand, has been great. It sounds great, has tons of features I want and has not faltered once.
Ketron has always made good modules for many years. I used the Midjay for more than a year, along with an external control keyboard.
A lot of guitars players use XD3 and/or SD3 to accompany themselves.
I know Frank V. uses his a lot and has had no problems either.
I previously had X1, SD1, and SD5 as well. No problems with any of them.
DonM www.donmasonmusic.com
Posted by: Ketron_AJ

Re: BAD NEWS FOR AUDYA OWNERS.... - 02/07/10 10:13 AM

61 and M versions on the way.

Count Down for OS4 now at 1.