Confirmed: Korg NanoKontrol works fine

I can´t stop enjoying so many things I can do with my keyboards. Now I added a Korg NanoKontrol to my set up. At first I could not make it work and I thought I would return it to the store but later I realized how I had to set it up and now I can have at the tip of my fingers so many user programmable parameters with 18 buttons, 9 knobs and 9 sliders. So it is possible to control distant arrangers or synths with a tiny controller via the computer. There’s been so little and confusing information out there in the web and even in Korg forums that I just wanted to let you know: Yes it works with your Yamaha and Korg arranger.

But only with a computer in between, right?

Correct. As an organ player I was reluctant to use a computer but sooner or later many of you too (like me) will end up with a computer based set up. For those who use more than one gear simultaneously, with a computer the possibilities seem to be endless.

[This message has been edited by vagro (edited 03-31-2009).]

I used a Nano Control for my DAW before I got the XS8. It worked great. Now the Motif has taken on those chores so I brought the Nano back to the store.

Vagro and Kingfrog,

Please see here

http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/019348.html

Can you tell me if the NanoKontrol can control things like Fruity Loops?

Are the knobs-sliders buttons independent or are some sharing the same function as in Korg MicroKontrol?

If yes, it would be a very good addition to my Hypersonic 2 Setup, and also would do the job for my friend.

My freind informed me that he uses/is going to use Rebirth. My bad.

Any info on assignable controls on Rebirth?

The knobs and sliders are independent and can be programmed in any way you like. If the SW has MIDI control surface input capabilities, the Nano Kontrol will work. Its just a keyboard controller without the keys...designed for us as a DAW CONTROL SURFACE..(korg does make a nano Keyboard as well)

Thanks, i think ReBirth can accept controller messages form an external controller. I just saw that some other Korg controller had THE SAME parameter shared by the slider and the knob above it, effectively halving the number of possibilities.

I looked at these, especially the 12-button pad controller. I *WISH* these generated straight MIDI (without the need to go thru a computer USB port). I like the idea of being able to configure them with PC based software. But once they have been programmed, they should have a standard MIDI out. Does anyone make a pad controller like this?

As it stands, what Korg have produced is very similar but more limited than another device called the Monome: http://www.monome.org
Check it out! -Ted

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Trident, actually this product has been made to play and control any music software in the PC, that's why it lacks a standard midi out. I recommend you or your friend download the free Korg Kontrol Editor software to quickly understand all you can do with it. That's what I did and happily it worked fine as I excpected.
Check it out here http://www.korg.co.uk/products/software_controllers/nano/sc_nano.asp

Thanks Vagro,
I downloaded the Korg Editor and it seems that you can assign anything to anything.

What I imagine, is that that the NanoKontrol may make an excellent control for my Hypersonic 2 softsynth. And the price is ridiculusly low.

What are you using it for?



[This message has been edited by trident (edited 04-01-2009).]

Rebirth was discontinued ages ago and no, you can control Rebirth as the other synths.
You can only start, stop, forward and thing like that but not as the conventional soft synths
where you can actually play notes, adjust controlls and stuff.

I am a home player and I made an organ-like set up. I don't use any software in the Pc other than a very simple one to connect the usb's in and out ports of my instruments. At present I use the NanoKontrol to control my Psr which is standing vertically. With the sliders I control the volume of the 3 voices and 6 parts of the style, with the knobs I control brillance or reverb and with some buttons I mute or unmute the sounds (setting volume to 0). You can use 4 different "Scenes" so by just pressing a button you change all the NanoK controlling parameters. At this price range I am thinking of buying another one to place it on the other side of my Pa500, I like symmetry!! . Check the picture of how I use it: http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=5492656&pid=10942256&myphotos=1

Nedim I know it was discontinued...but hat's what he uses.

Are you sure that you CANNOT control parameters like resonance, filter cut-off and so on from nanoKontrol or any other midi controller? Please elaborate, this is a deal breaker if yes. I have seen that Roland PCR line (lots of sliders nd knobs along with a keyboard) do have a downloadable template for Rebirth.

At the time when i was using it nothing was able to do it, i was one of the first Beta
Testers for Prop.Heads too, i've been using Rebirth for at least 10 years till i switched
to OS X from Classic OS. I stoped using it around 2-3 years ago, i was controlling it with
few boards like MS2000, SUPERNOVA and some other things but nothing would controll
knobs and keys. Now make sure to call Tech Support of the company you buying the
controller and maybe they can help you better if they came up with something but as
i know off nothing worked that way on Rebirth before.

Nedim,
on the downloads section for the Roland PCR line controllers http://www.roland.com/products/en/_suppo...000003855&dsp=1 I found that they provide a set of 10 midi bulk files that you can load to your (Roland) controller and use it to control Rebirth...

See below, they seem to allow manipulation of Cutoff and Reso, as well as Tones for the TR 808

what do you make of these?

I suppose that it shows that Rebirth can accept external controlling, so the Korg may play, as far as it is set to transmit the same controllers, I have to study the Rebirth manual for sure. It is not a matter of who is wrong or right, It matters if you think the following show that it can do what I want/.

"REBIRTH_D.mid" PARAMETER LIST
- PARAMETER OUTPUT MESSAGE RANGE CH PORT BUTTON
R1 Synth 1 - Tune CC 24(18) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R2 Synth 1 - Cutoff CC 25(19) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R3 Synth 1 - Reso CC 26(1A) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R4 Synth 1 - Env Mod CC 27(1B) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R5 Synth 1 - Decay CC 28(1C) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R6 Synth 1 - Accent CC 29(1D) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R7 Mixer - Synth 1: Delay Amount CC 13(0D) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R8 Mixer - Synth 1: Pan CC 12(0C) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S1 Synth 1 - Pattern 1--8 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 dd 64 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 B0 7B 00 17(11) - 24(18) - 1 -
S2 Synth 1 - Bank A--D 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 dd 64 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 B0 7B 00 13(0D) - 16(10) - 1 -
S3 Synth 2 - Pattern 1--8 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 dd 64 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 B0 7B 00 30(1E) - 37(25) - 1 -
S4 Synth 2 - Bank A--D 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 dd 64 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 B0 7B 00 26(1A) - 29(1D) - 1 -
S5 Focus to Synth1 -- 909 Rhythm 90 dd 64 B0 7B 00 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 68(44) - 65(41) - 1 -
S6 Mixer - Synth 1: Level CC 11(0B) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S7 Master - Level CC 7(07) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S8 TEMPO TEMPO - - - -
B1 Synth 1 - Waveform CC 23(17) 0(00) / 127(7F) 1 1 1
B2 Synth 1 - Dist On/Off NOTE 79(4F) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
B3 Synth 1 - PCF On/Off NOTE 80(50) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
B4 Synth 1 - Comp On/Off NOTE 81(51) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
B5 Synth 1 - Pattern On/Off 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 0C 64 90 0C 00 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 0(00) / 127(7F) - 1 0
B6 Synth 1 - Mix On/Off NOTE 78(4E) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
L1 STOP FC - - 1 -
L2 START FA - - 1 -
L3 CONTINUE FB - - 1 -
P1 Select Pattern/Program Synth NOTE 64(40) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
P2 Master - Level CC 7(07) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -


"REBIRTH_F.mid" PARAMETER LIST
- PARAMETER OUTPUT MESSAGE RANGE CH PORT BUTTON
R1 808 - BD Tone CC 39(27) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R2 808 - SD Tune CC 42(2A) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R3 808 - LT Tune CC 45(2D) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R4 808 - MT Tune CC 48(30) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R5 808 - HT Tune CC 51(33) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R6 808 - BD Decay CC 40(28) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R7 808 - SD Snappy CC 43(2B) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
R8 Mixer - 808 Rhythm: Pan CC 18(12) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S1 808 - AC Level CC 37(25) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S2 808 - BD Level CC 38(26) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S3 808 - SD Level CC 41(29) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S4 808 - LT Level CC 44(2C) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S5 808 - MT Level CC 47(2F) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S6 808 - HT Level CC 50(32) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S7 808 - RS Level CC 53(35) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -
S8 TEMPO TEMPO - - - -
B1 808 - LT Switch CC 46(2E) 0(00) / 127(7F) 1 1 1
B2 808 - MT Switch CC 49(31) 0(00) / 127(7F) 1 1 1
B3 808 - HT Switch CC 52(34) 0(00) / 127(7F) 1 1 1
B4 808 - RS Switch CC 54(36) 0(00) / 127(7F) 1 1 1
B5 808 - Pattern On/Off 90 60 64 90 60 00 90 26 64 90 26 00 90 5F 64 90 5F 00 0(00) / 127(7F) - 1 0
B6 808 - Mix On/Off NOTE 86(56) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
L1 STOP FC - - 1 -
L2 START FA - - 1 -
L3 CONTINUE FB - - 1 -
P1 Select Pattern/Program Synth NOTE 64(40) 0(00) / 100(64) 1 1 0
P2 Master - Level CC 7(07) 0(00) - 127(7F) 1 1 -


What do you think?