PA800 - Way Too Cool!

Massaging SMF:

- Put them in sequencer mode and record the tracks (one at a time) you want to edit, or change sounds, tempo, etc
- Drop down, save to the Song Mode
- In Song Mode, put in OTS/balances, PADS and use SPLIT mode.
- Play the correct chords and use the vocal harmony (any type) button.

AWESOME

[This message has been edited by zuki (edited 07-09-2008).]

For all my seq play applications, I put the kb in full mode with the upper arranger button lit. This allows me to play 2 handed piano/gtr/etc. while triggering fantastic harmonies that don't go crazy trying to follow moving bass lines that might change their character too much. This is my prefered method of SMF playback. I always have to have the harmonies - it's my trademark sound.

Good UD -

Me too! Could never live again without the harmonizer - a huge part of my performance. I prefer to play chords instead of piano mode. I don't find any harmony note conflicts doing it this way.

After 2am this morning, I still could not find how to save OTS changes to my new smf saved songs. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Buy a Roland..it does all of the above ..better..

Geeshhhh - no thank you

Zuki....why so bitter about Roland products......? Please share your thoughts so potential buyers can learn more.
I myself look forward to their next arranger for sure.

Zuki... did you actually TRY the G70 harmonizer while you had one?

It would be interesting to hear how you feel the two harmonizers compared.

OTS, and I assume you mean STS by that, settings cannot be save to midi file. They are saved to the SSD-(factory), and are recalled by selecting them either with style, performance or a songbook entry.

Dennis

[This message has been edited by miden (edited 07-10-2008).]

They don't compare..The G70 is more advanced..easier to use...and sounds better...

Fran, thanks for that erudite, concise and well-reasoned argument!!

D

In response:

1. Diki - never tried the harmonizer - knew I wasn't interested anyway after trying the other stuff first. I'm sure it's fine.

2. Dnj - not a bitter reply my friend. Simply a reaction to Fran's ever biased Roland statements.

3. Fran - give me a Roland 61 note keyboard with speakers and a harmonizer that compares to the 800 and I'll listen.

Zuki ..an E80 should do..

BTW..I am biased..especially when I am factual..

I like a wide range of products..Many other name brands...They all have strengths and weaknesses...

I do not dislike any brand for brand sake..as I do not like all Roland boards..( if you have paid attention in the past, I have negative views on Roland items too)

This particular post..I know I am right..

There are many things I like on the PA800..including the harmonizer....just because I believe the Roland harmonizer is better...doesn't trash the Korg..

I can say the same for keyfeel..The G70 is by far better,..doesn't trash the Korg PA800 (way better than S900}..

I can say the same about the OS..I think the Korg is still stuck in the i30 age..saving , loading from hard drive..the USB is a great improvement..

The biggest edge to me G70 verses the PA800 harmonizer..is the flexibility..It(Roland) can read (analyze} the proper chords with in a SMF(it considers all the tracks of a SMF)..not just a assignable track in a vocoder mode...

The other features also have the edge..vocoder, pitch correction and the vocal character changes....

You can also freely get the reads from left hand/right hand/full keyboard/SMF/chord recognition from styles ..

The 90 plus presets are also excellent...In fact I can't find anything to dislike on the Roland harmonizer..

Try it...compare them..I have..A..B..ing answers this argument..

Biased..maybe..but with good reason..