Style Problem

Posted by: hammer

Style Problem - 02/11/08 12:29 PM

I have spent a week going through all the styles on my PA1X trying to match up styles with my gig sets and find that not many of the styles on my hard drive are a very good match. I play country, 30,s, 40,s and 50,s swing and big band type gigs.

I was hoping someone who reads this might know of a good source for these type of styles.

Any input will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Hammer
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 12:55 PM

You have mail
Posted by: TommyF

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 12:56 PM

You've got mail

Kind regards,
Tommy
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 12:58 PM

Hi Hammer,
Have you tried the Korg site? http://korgpa.com/pa_root/en/extra/bonusware.html?en

or the CreateASongstyle Forum
http://www.createsongstyles.com/forum/index.php

best wishes
rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by hammer:
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Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 01:12 PM

Thanks to all who have responded - I will try all of these and post my results. It is really great to have a community support group when you get a new keyboard.

Hammer
Posted by: DonM

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 02:39 PM

Hope you have better luck than I did finding suitable styles.
DonM
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 02:47 PM

Hi Don,

Yeah - the styles have been a big disappontment so far - the PA1X sounds awesome and it is a good board. I have spent many hours going through any style I can get my hands on - lots of time. One thing Don - the jazz and latin styles will blow you away - really outstanding. I like the keyboard and will be disappointed if I have to replace it because of the style thing.

Some of the folks have emailed me styles today so we shall see.

Hammer
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 03:41 PM

It's amazing they dont have an extensive style library to back up there wonderful feature packed arrangers....its like running a car with just a gallon of gas....ya cant go to too far.
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 03:49 PM

It sure would have made my life easier had PSR3000. It looks like even the ones I am finding that might work will need at least one or two of the STS voices changed. Lot of work when you pay this much for a arranger. It really is a shame because the thing sounds awesome and is very well built. I will keep at it and see how it goes.

hammer
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 03:54 PM

Hi Rikki,

Yes, I have been to those sites - I had to wait a week for my keyboard and while it was being shipped I downloaded a ton of styles anywhere I could find them.

The problem is that I played many years with 12-18 piece big bands and have also played with two major symphonies and I am very criticle of how things sound. It seems strange to me to have a "big band" style going and all of a sudden you have a jazz organ pop up. When is the last time you heard a jazz organ in a Stan Kenton or Woody Herman, Buddy Rich, etc. recording?

Anyway, I will work it out.
Thanks for the heads up though.

Hammer
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 03:59 PM

IMO all STS sounds have to be customized, thats what I did....you have to make it YOUR ARRANGER not what they want you to play.
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 04:43 PM

Donny,
I think you are right - the sounds are just to good to not be able to put together a great sounding system. Fact is I really like the keyboard - and I really want it to work for me so I will give it my best shot and along with the help from the members here it should go well.

Just takes time and learning.

Hammer
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 04:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
IMO all STS sounds have to be customized, thats what I did....you have to make it YOUR ARRANGER not what they want you to play.


Hammer that's pretty much what I've been doing as well. You brought up a good point in your comment when was the last time you heard a jazz organ with Stan Kenton or Woody Herman ? I have found certain voices that are my favorites and use those for STS settings. It's a bit of work, more tedious than difficult to do. Good luck.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 05:06 PM

I pretty much
make a Stock "style template", for all your "GOTO" styles, customizing, tweaking all Parameters, STS, then use that SAME template to make all the songs you would use with it....this will speed up the process....then down once you have them in your Reg, Songbook, HD etc etc you can go in and maybe change a few OTS/STS etc to your specific needs in a song.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 09:20 PM

Hi Hammer,
possibly have to choose some of your own sound settings.

Just out of curiosity,is your PA1x able to load PA800 styles?? or only prior models.

There's some pretty good style editing / creating tools on the Korgs, but I suppose not everyone has the spare time to do that.

Hope you find what you're after, they're really great keyboards.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hammer:
[B]Hi Rikki,
Posted by: spalding

Re: Style Problem - 02/11/08 11:27 PM

Hammer , the PA1X can accept all the PA800 styles with minimum if at all tweaking. serach on the Korg forum for the thread on PA800 styles and then simply click on the link and download them. Its unfortunate that the existing styles are not sufficient for your needs but finding appropriate styles on the net should be no problem.
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 06:24 AM

I think I have all the PA800 styles on the hard drive - I will check today and confirm.

By the way - I stopped in at a local GC store yesterday and played the PA800 for about an hour - seems like it is an entirely different keyboard than my PA1X. I don't believe it sounds any better but there were some styles that I haven't heard before.

Does anyone know how to force the volumn control for the sliders to be on by default and stay on - on my PA1X it goes on or off with variations within a style - a real pain if you try to adjust a tracks volume on the fly and the button is off.

Hammer
Posted by: hammer

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 08:38 AM

A big thanks to Tommy - the PA90 elite styles are a whole lot better than others I have tried and i can probably make a bunch of the work for my gigs. Deeply appreciated.
The big band styles are much better than others i have found.
Hammer
Posted by: PraiseTheLord

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 09:41 AM

Tommy, did you send Hammer the styles you posted on createsongstyles?

Graham
Posted by: TommyF

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 10:18 AM

Graham,

Yes I did post these styles (from the Pa80 Elite) on createsongstyles.com, but I think that the post got lost when the site was restructured some time ago. I will reupload the styles to createsongstyles.com later today.

Kind regards,
Tommy
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 10:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TommyF:
Graham,

Yes I did post these styles (from the Pa80 Elite) on createsongstyles.com, but I think that the post got lost when the site was restructured some time ago. I will reupload the styles to createsongstyles.com later today.

Kind regards,
Tommy


Tommy that sounds good, I'll have to check them out. Thanks
Posted by: TommyF

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 10:36 AM

I have uploaded the Pa80 Elite styles to createsongstyles.com in the Korg forum. You must register to download the file, but it is free and easy. Those who don't know createsongstyles.com will be pleasantly surprised - it is a great resource for every arranger player.

Kind regards,
Tommy
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Style Problem - 02/12/08 05:16 PM

Hi Spalding,
thank you for letting me know about PA1x being able to play PA800 styles. I usually share any styles I make with other users on the createasongstyle forum Do PA800 pads work in a PA1x also?

Hammer mentioned he thought some of the PA800 styles were different to his PA1X. Were the PA800 styles made available to PA1X users??

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spalding:
[B]Hammer , the PA1X can accept all the PA800 styles with minimum if at all tweaking.