How come nobody is excited about Tyros 2's 300 mb

Christ! Thats a massive wave rom. Roland's G70 seemed large at 192 but this beast just knocks everything out.

Is the vocal harmony really improved ??

Does it have a decent audience applause sound this time ?

Will it have MORE choir sounds than Tyros 1?

Any extra oriental drum kits ?

Did you not notice all the exitement ?
Where have you been the last few weeks ?

Please do a 'search' and visit the demo-sites ....

Why do you want an 'applause' from the keyboard ? We get it from the audience in full stereo !

Rolandfan , I checked the manual and cannot find that to be a fact,,,I cannot believe Yamaha would use that kind of rom memory in a home keyboard when they do not use it in their flagship workststions..besides the Tyros sounds too thin to be..
If you find it in the manual, tell me where?

BTW, watch your language..

In many ways I think we've been stroked by manufacturers to think that 185 or even 300 MB of WAVE ROM is a lot. I've been working with Colossus, which is a 32 GB (not MB) sound library. The sound difference between Colossus and my Motif ES 8, which has what Yamaha calls "a whopping 185 MB of WAV ROM", is a no-brainer - Colossus sounds much better in every way. And the way Colossus works is simple: the attack of the sample is loaded into RAM for on-demand playing while the rest of the sample plays direct-from-disk off a hard drive. Colossus is now available on the Muse Receptor for live use without a computer. I think companies like Y/R/K could make keyboard workstations that delivered GB's of WAV ROM in the same manner if they wanted to, but as long as they can sell their comparitively limited hardware at high prices then they have no incentive to do it.

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I believe that the 300MB INCLUDES the Tyros2 Operating System software as well.

Scott

Sorry about that Fran.

Fran when Yamaha introduced Tyros 1 almost every advertisement mentioned 96 mb....This time the adverts didnt say anything....and if its not in the manual then I dont know why someone said it was 300mb... Yamaha always mentions the mb amount.....lol not this time

What'd he say?

The first word of his post.

And that's a problem? How sick is that?

Unfortunately some folks think it is more effective and fun to immaturely shine a bright offensive light directly into someone's face and embarass them in order to make their self-rightous point for everyone else to see, rather than to let their inward light exude a gentle glow to which people are attracted. Maybe there's just not much inside to start with. MT7:5

Going back to the topic, I think that the sheer quantity of ROM does not mean anything; what matters is the "quality" of the sounds. Kurzweil succeeded in packing one of the most used digital pianos (by professional players) in just 12 Mb.

stop this nonsense ! i also found the word offensive but did not comment. I am sure it wasnt meant to offend and i am sure that most here would not deliberatly try to offend others sensibilities. Lets just let it stop here. Now we know some people are ofended by certain words lets not use them unless we have to. Its really that simple

I'm offended by the word 'Arranger' - now does everyone promise not to use it and offend ME??!!!

OK Folks lets get back to the plot.

The Tyros 2 does indeed have a large amount of wave ROM.

But if it had been filled with rubbish samples the size used would not matter.

Thanfully what I've heard suggests that the samples used are of the highest quality.

The size of the wave is one variable which determines the overall quality of the virtual acoustic instrument. All things being equal, the larger the sample the better the instrument emulates the real thing. As you know serious composers or screen writers either use the real instrument or those (virtual instruments) in the GB range. They usually do not use, e.g., pianos found in workstations or arranger keyboards but rather something like Bardstown's Bosendorfer 290, etc.

I am certain for live performances most virtual instruments found in workstations or arrangers are sufficient

[This message has been edited by Frank L. Rosenthal (edited 10-06-2005).]