I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands

Posted by: rolandfan

I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 01:51 PM

It takes extra talent to play the keyboard and sing on your own. The singer is more expressive because the music comes from him and not others. Way to go all u one man bands. I saw barry manillow playing the piano and singing on oprah just now and it made me start this topic
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 02:34 PM

I think this could create a bit of dialogue, especially if there are members of bands reading this forum....
I spent many years with a band, and have been a OMB for quite a few as well ...
I would say that each needs a certain talent. To get several members of a band to perform as a solid, cohesive unit, and NOT sound like a group of people just playing together, takes a lot of work ... While it may be true that some band members could 'cover up' for another lesser player/singer, that doesn't usually last for long, nor does it bring much success...
Obviously, a OMB has only his/her own talent and kb to use, and as a 'single' performer, you are certainly 'out there' and any mistake is your own ... but you also don't have to be concerned with what some others might be playing or singing at the same time, either...
I LOVE the flexibility of performing as a OMB, but certainly miss the support and comaraderie of the fellows I used to play with ... (and if any night I'm feeling grumpy or not up to par, I have no one else to get me out of my funk !!! ...)
t.
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 02:48 PM

For one that does both,may I say I totally agree.
Bernie
Posted by: Tony Rome

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 03:08 PM

Tony, I think that your post says it all and puts things into the proper perpective..
it really is great when you can stand front and center stage and turn and smile and feel the comaraderie of the group that is backing you and the great sensation when everything gels into place and the audiance starts applauding and cheering everybody on.
Man then you know it's "SHOW BIZ"....thanks
TR
Posted by: captain Russ

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 03:52 PM

I think we're talking about different approaches to performance, and what one prefers to do is an individual choice.

Anyone who thinks that it is always harder to do the one man band thing should look at the pure love and complex interplay of groups like Fourplay, or the interaction between Bella Fleck and Victor Wooten. Improvising taking ques from musicians of equal ability and stature is awsome and takes talent, concentration, chops and years of experience. The non-spoken communication
and creativity involved is magic!

Of course, we're approaching the whole "entertainer vs. musician" subject.

In a perfect world, I'd always play in a group and do mostly instrumentals. In the real world, over 1/2 my work is as a OMB.

I continue to have a "love/hate" relationship with arrangers. But what's more important is do what you choose to do and be the best you can be at it. Always keep listening and learning, and you'll achieve success however you define it and however you choose to do it.

Let's all keep on "pickin' and grinnin'!


Russ
Posted by: renig

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 03:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tony mads usa:
I think this could create a bit of dialogue, especially if there are members of bands reading this forum....
I spent many years with a band, and have been a OMB for quite a few as well ...
I would say that each needs a certain talent. To get several members of a band to perform as a solid, cohesive unit, and NOT sound like a group of people just playing together, takes a lot of work ... While it may be true that some band members could 'cover up' for another lesser player/singer, that doesn't usually last for long, nor does it bring much success...
Obviously, a OMB has only his/her own talent and kb to use, and as a 'single' performer, you are certainly 'out there' and any mistake is your own ... but you also don't have to be concerned with what some others might be playing or singing at the same time, either...
I LOVE the flexibility of performing as a OMB, but certainly miss the support and comaraderie of the fellows I used to play with ... (and if any night I'm feeling grumpy or not up to par, I have no one else to get me out of my funk !!! ...)
t.


Truer words were never spoken, Tony. Much as I enjoy playing and singing with my board, it's no substitute for the camaraderie and chemistry of the real thing.
Posted by: DonM

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 04:21 PM

OMB is EASIER for me. I don't have to teach everybody the songs. I know everybody will show up on time, will take breaks when I do, won't get drunk, etc.
Still, I must agree that it's sometimes more fun to work with a band.
DonM
Posted by: brickboo

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 04:28 PM

I must have played with a dozen bands in New Orleans probably more than that. The longest any group stayed together was on a 6 night a week gig in Morgan City La. It lasted from September to the first week of January.

Too many musicians with too many problems for the long haul. OMB is a lot less stressful if you have a backup system.

[This message has been edited by brickboo (edited 12-08-2005).]
Posted by: rolandfan

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 05:03 PM

Bands work if they stick together through thick and thin. To the ears of the general public the one man band is the underdog ?
Posted by: renig

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 07:34 PM

Yeah, maybe I've been spoiled. We had the same trio together for 14 years, and I'd been in various bands with the other two for many years before that. Great days!
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 08:05 PM

I have to admit that I have been truly blessed with my band experience ... in fact as I am writing this I am listening to a cd one of the guys just sent me of some tapes he had from New Year's Eve parties we played in the 70's ... We started in high school and stayed together for 26 years... no booze (not to excess, anyway), absolutely NO drugs, and the only women were our wives... nobody missed a gig or showed up not absolutely ready to play ... and working out 3 -4 part harmonies was a lot more fun than a harmonizer ... a very unique situation and one of the most gratifying experiences of my life ....
t.
Posted by: kbrkr

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/08/05 09:26 PM

I do both; Play Keyboards as OMB and Play drums for a band.

It's a lot easier controlling the band on an arranger. As a drummer in a band, let me tell you how challenging it is to keep everyone on the same page start and stop at the same time, play the same breaks etc.

More control = Easy performance.

Al
Posted by: renig

Re: I have a far greater admiration for one man bands than regular bands - 12/09/05 02:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tony mads usa:
I have to admit that I have been truly blessed with my band experience ... in fact as I am writing this I am listening to a cd one of the guys just sent me of some tapes he had from New Year's Eve parties we played in the 70's ... We started in high school and stayed together for 26 years... no booze (not to excess, anyway), absolutely NO drugs, and the only women were our wives... nobody missed a gig or showed up not absolutely ready to play ... and working out 3 -4 part harmonies was a lot more fun than a harmonizer ... a very unique situation and one of the most gratifying experiences of my life ....
t.


Ditto.
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