Virtual sound canvas or simular

Posted by: Christian_1

Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/18/07 07:44 AM

Hi all,
I am looking for a softsynth or simular that can play back standard GM/GS MIDIfiles under XP.
Not going to use it for recordings, but just want something better than my soundcard. Any tip is apreciated, many thanks!
Posted by: pasadoble

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/18/07 08:27 AM

There's a lot of useful software here, you'll more than probably find something here.
Rgds
Noel
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/
Posted by: MacAllcock

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/18/07 10:49 AM

Hasn't XP got a GS Softsynth with it anyway? I've certainly got one (Microsoft GS WaveTable Synth). I think this was written by Roland if my memory serves me correctly.

You can tell XP to use this device by default using Control Panel - "Sound, Speach and Audio Devices" - "Change The Sound Scheme" - then select the "Audio" tab and select this synth from the pulldown for "Midi Music Playback" "Default Device".

You may have to use this technique to set up any other soft synth you get hold of; depends on the sophistication of the soft synth install program.
Posted by: Vadim

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/18/07 03:38 PM

NI's BandStand, also in Sonar 6, there's TSS ot TTS sounds module powered by roland, all the best Roland sounds, plus very usefull sound sshaping filters like: LP, Reso, Character, EQ, and lots more, all Midi or GS standard!!
Posted by: RPdigital

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/19/07 12:13 AM

Coyote ForteDXi
Native Instruments BandStand
Roland HQ HyperCanvas
Roland VSC3
Posted by: Bluezplayer

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/19/07 06:32 AM

Other than my hardware keyboards (4 )..I have a few options for midi file playback. I have Hypersonic 2, Wusikstation, Hypercanvas, Sonar's TTS, and some good quality ( and free ) soundfonts including Titanic and SGM180. I have a friend who has NI bandstand and I've tested it a good deal myself.

My experiences when running any of these "all in one" modules goes something like this:

For playing and crafting individual sounds, ( like using panel voices on your kb or presets on a specigfic vst instrument ) Wusik was by far my favorite until Hypersonic 2 came out. Hypercanvas, the soundfonts, and TTS1 lagged behind. I only tried it briefly on Bandstand, and was not impressed at all.

For playing back most of my Standard midifiles, overall I preferred the SGM180 SF, with HS 2 very close, then Bandstand after those. Wusikstation didn't support CC / patch changes, and TTS and the Titanic sf were decent, but behind the rest. All of these sound better to me than my Motif ES or Tyros for midifile playback though. My PA80 and MZ2000 are very decent, but not as good as SGM180 and HS2.

So for the price of a VST / DXi soundfont host... I use Livesynth pro, but I think it's no longer made ( there are others out there ), I like the way my SMF's sound better than with any of the medium to high priced commercial offerings.

I can do a little better than SGM180 or HS2 using Forte and then instrument specific VST's and hardware for each instrument, but because I don't use many SMF's in the first place the effort hardly seems worth it .


AJ



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Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/19/07 07:07 AM

I know you are talking about softsynths and samples,but I have been trying different hardware and software for years for the best GM sounset.

The Ketron SD2 is it. Check it out.

Bernie
Posted by: Christian_1

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/19/07 02:03 PM

Hi all,
Thanks for your replies. Howver, I haven't found anything as of yet. Could maybe someone point me to a product?
I don't have Sonar or simular. If there is a progam for Windows that will let me import soundfonts to use as a gm/gs bank i'd apreciate that as well. Many thanks!
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/20/07 07:59 AM

I use this one
http://www.rgcaudio.com/sfz.htm

Bernie
Posted by: Diki

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/20/07 11:03 AM

For all the time and effort you spend in trying to get a GS file to play passably on a computer, it would be faster and more accurate to use a Roland module, the thing the file was originally developed for...!

Try to see if you can pick up a used MGS-64 rack module or higher, they can be found very inexpensively (my favorite is the SC880)....

No more worrying about CC codes or NRPNs, Reverb type sys-ex, etc., etc.. Why use an expensive laptop or computer to do what a cheap module can do better?
Posted by: Vquestor

Re: Virtual sound canvas or simular - 02/20/07 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
For all the time and effort you spend in trying to get a GS file to play passably on a computer, it would be faster and more accurate to use a Roland module, the thing the file was originally developed for...!

Try to see if you can pick up a used MGS-64 rack module or higher, they can be found very inexpensively (my favorite is the SC880)....

No more worrying about CC codes or NRPNs, Reverb type sys-ex, etc., etc.. Why use an expensive laptop or computer to do what a cheap module can do better?


Excellent point.
I have a new in box Roland SK-88 Pro for sale, in case anyone is interested.