about roland e60 again

does anyone know, is there some real photos released yet? i was trying to find some sites with instrument's demo, but none of them had that.
i am curious when is the market release date for the new e series? i guess was end of june?
how come no demos yet?

I would like to hear and see some demos of the E50/60 as well. Roland marketing . Sigh.
I'm ranting again. Their marketing department fails again.
They will probably price the E50 close to the PSR3000, even though it has no organ drawbars,no harmonizer, the USB port won't be able to read a USB drive. Will they also recycle the same voices from the EM and EXR series? Roland needs to fire the marketing director.
Starkeeper

How hard is it to make some MP3 demos, and stick it in your web pages for prospective buyers to get an idea of what they like about something and what they dont. Honestly, if i were senior management at Roland, i think a few heads would be rolling now. Maybe it aint that good??? is that why??? Maybe they should be waiting until they have a unit that competes with other available units in the market at the moment. I would think that Korg are doing just that. And if Yamaha and Korg can load samples, what on earth is wrong at Roland?? I dont know any of the answers to the above questions, but like others i am perplexed by the ineptitude of Roland management. Honestly, if you think it cometes with T2 get the demos out there, and lets see, right now your are looking a poor second to the bite

if the estimated price of e60 is 1300 euro, and the e50 about 900 euro, then my question is how expensive psr3100 (?) will be? i think next psr will be better than e60 features wise, but i am just too afraid of a pour keybed. while hopefully e60 will keep some of the wonderful g70 keybed.

well, time will tell. until we'll see any of these (roland's e50/e60, yamaha's next psr, korg's next release, ketron's sd replacement) we can not say for sure.

but indeed roland's idea of marketing their products is at least hard to understand.

so, is it right? e60 has the same sounds and styles (but less of a number) as e80?

http://www.roland.co.uk/synth_room_catdet.asp?id=E60

There's a pic, and says it's coming in August.

R

It's a CAD rendering, not a real picture.

U R right.

How about this?
http://www.roland.com/products/com/E-09/images/top_L.jpg

Sorry, had the e-09 on the brain.
http://www.roland.com/products/com/E-60/images/top_L.jpg

How do you know if this is a CAD rendering??

R

Is the same image as previous link (see, for instance, the coloured switches)

Because I saw E-60 live at Frankfurt Messe and because the colour of the lit switches is unnatural and typical of CAD renderings.

Have the E50/60 hit the streets yet?
Starkeeper

since we are on the subject again...
i still didn t find out for sure if the sounds are the same in e80 and e60. i hope they are. i hope the only difference between the two is the number of them.

starkeeper, it seems we'll have to wait another month or so...

Looking on the various Roland sites the E60 and E80 are as follow:

E60 has 512 mbit wave rom, it has over 1000 panel tones and 32 drum kits and over 120 styles

E80 has 1 gbit wave rom, it has over 1100 panel tones and 54 drum kits and over 350 styles

My local music shop tells me the sounds are the same in the E60 but not as many and also far less styles in there. The E80 probably utilises sounds for styles missing in the E60 so the extra styles this has will probably not be compatable with the E60 otherwise everyone would buy an E60 instead?
Question is are the extra 100 or so panel tones, 22 drum kits and 200+ styles in the E80 worth the extra money over the E60?
Reading the review that Abacus gave on the E80 on another thread you may all be better waiting to hear these for yourselves.

I checked both E-80 and E-60 at Frankfurt Musik Messe and I can say that the difference in sound quality is easily appreciable (even if not so big, especially for some specific sounds that should be exactly same).
There are some other differences that should be considered, as the multiple MFX, the vocal input (with effects and harmonizer) and the powerful on board amplification system that E-80 has.
Up to you if it is worth the difference in price.

o3bor, now, since there are no e60 demo available (unless they posted them today...) how do you think e60 sounds compare with psr3000? i got the chance to play psr3000 for about one hour two weeks ago, and i still have it fresh in my mind.
can you please appreciate that?
and more, how about "basic" sounds of e60 (pianos, guitars, drums, basses)? are they at least satisfactory? how would you rate them compared with exr series sounds?

i'd be disappointed if e60 would be closer to exr7 than to g70... i like very much the features, guitar mode and make up tools, but if sounds are just exr's level, i'd be disappointed indeed.



[This message has been edited by adimatis (edited 05-29-2006).]

Adimatis, the basic sounds that you mention are very close to E-80 quality and much better than EXR series.
Also the other sounds are, in general, more in the G-70/E-80 area than in EXR.

I don't want to make comparison with PSR-3000 since basically I prefer Roland sounds against Yamaha, so my opinion cannot be unbiased.

Hello All
The E60 as far as I am aware has the same sound engine as the E80, but has less on it.
You can see my personal report on the E80 and PSR 3000 here. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/013261.html
As an addition, I would like to add that I play a Wersi OAS instrument with OAS 6, (Shortly to be upgraded to OAS 7) and none of the other manufactures new instruments would cause me to change, therefore I have no axe to grind with any of them.

Bill

I read the specs again and would like to withdraw part of my criticism. . The E60 will have a PCMCIA card which will support a USB drive.
Starkeeper



[This message has been edited by Starkeeper (edited 05-29-2006).]

starkeeper,
why considering e50, since e60 is not much more expensive and gives you 76 keys?
or you prefer compact (lighter)?

and about usb, is just too bad it does not work with usb flash drives. so, a pcmcia card adapter is needed, for memory stick for instance. but are you sure it would also make it for a usb drive?

I would definitely consider an E60.
Starkeeper