Vocals almost gone

Posted by: DonM

Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 08:10 AM

I'm NOT complaining, but . . .
I've done doubles every day this week, and tomorrow I have a triple, two hours, two hours and four hours. I am hoarse from all the singing.
I'm sure Gary has a remedy. What will help besides rest. I'll get that Sunday.
Thanks,
Don
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 11:05 AM

Don ... I'm sure Gary would have other "kickapoo" remedies, but hot tea with honey and lemon should help ... and Hall's Mentholyptus Cough Drops between verses ...
t.
Posted by: Tony Rome

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 11:40 AM

Don....when I used to have that problem, I found that when I sprayed my throat with
Cloryseptic (spl) every twenty minutes or so
would greatly help me get through it all...
it comes in both Cherry and Mint liquid with
a pump spray top....try it...god luck....
Tony Rome
Posted by: Sheriff

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 12:02 PM

You can also try to keep warm your neck with a tie. You can do it cumulative to that what Tony Mads said. To be hoarse means to have a little ignition in throat. So, keep your neck warm. The body's own heat is one of the best healer!
Get well soon, Don! I want to HEAR so many more stories of you...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)
Posted by: btweengigs

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 12:56 PM

Last month I had a run of 10 day straight with a couple of doubles thrown in. The voice was undependable at best. I wasn't sure if I was worn out, getting sick or had allergies.

So, I vegetated during the day, drank warm tea with honey and lemon. Gargled white vinegar in warm water (Ugh). And before each job gargled with aspirin. I guess it helped. I made it to a 3-day break and that is what really did the trick. There is no substitute for giving your voice a rest after it has been overworked.

Eddie
Posted by: Tom Cavanaugh

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 01:07 PM

I would do what Eddie says and also take 2 ibuprophen every 2 hours until I had taken 8. Ibuprophen is an anti inflamatory drug and I'll bet your vocal cords are inflamed. I would take them with food. Just as a side note Don, if all you are going to play is country music what difference does it really make? Right Boo?

Tom



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Posted by: DonM

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 01:48 PM

Tom,
Are you working tonight? Maybe if you mixed in a little country with the boring stuff you would be!
DonM
Posted by: kbrkr

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 02:04 PM

Eddie has the cure.

Do NOT use Cloreseptic as it will do long term damage to your throat. This was told to me by a voice coach.

Al
Posted by: btweengigs

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 02:22 PM

Yeah Tom. What Don said.
Eddie
Posted by: shboom

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 03:29 PM

Don...I would suggest gargling with some warm water.
You may want to try and drink a little tepid water with some honey in it also.
At least this has worked for me when I've done a theatre run of 10 to 12 shows.
Nothing ice cold, as much as you might want to, it'll only tighten up your vocal chords and constrict everything, so again...nothing too cold.
Good luck, and Good Show!!

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...shboom

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Posted by: DonM

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 03:56 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. I'm resting tonight, so maybe that will help.
Don
Posted by: brickboo

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 04:06 PM

Don, do the honey and lemon warm tea drink and suck on cough drops all night.

Tom, I think Don is smarter than you and me. He can do stuff besides country. He knows that country is where the money's at. Don's got Golf Clubs, lives on a Golf course, he's got a bass boat and an all brick home.

I pass a golf course on the way home. Don plays a pretty mean keyboard. He know's his stuff.



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Posted by: DonM

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/13/05 08:41 PM

I got lucky last night. Three of this area's legendary perfomers, Bill Bush, Billy Ledbetter and Hank Bowman, all came to see me at the supper club. For more than two hours, I didn't have to sing a note! What a night, and what a pleasure to accompany these great vocalists.
Also in attendance was Mr. Stan Lewis, one of the great pioneers of the recording industry. Stan recorded many of the early country, blues and rock n' roll stars. He was a true heavy-weight in recording and record distribution.
I was fortunate enough to have my trusty Nomad Jukebox digital recorder with me and I recorded the entire evening and also took photos so I can remember the occasion and flatter myself with the memories of the night.
Nights such as this make me wish more of us from SZ could get together. I've had the pleasure of hearing Tom C., Gary D., and Boo, and they all were great. Boo does play a mean sax, and sings as well.
Of course hearing my buddy HankB is a regular thing, but friends, he is a true showman! I know Boo and Tom got to hear Hank, but I don't remember if Gary did.
I wanted to go hear Hank tonight, as he is working over in Shreveport, but I decided I need to rest more.
Later,
DonM
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 06:25 AM

Doctor Gary to the rescue! OK, this one is the easiest of all problems to solve. When I was a much younger man, and working 6 days a week in the broadcasting biz doing local and national news, there were times when your through was just shot to hell. I did 15 minutes of news at the top of each hour, and another 5 minutes at the bottom of the hour. That's hard on the vocal folds.

I came in one morning to begin broadcasting the news and I was down to a squeak after the first 15 minute shot. The news director said "Go to the refrigerator, take out either the jar of sour onions or dill pickles, whichever you like the best, eat one before the broadcast and you'll be just fine." HE WAS RIGHT!

I didn't understand this until years later when I worked with a top ENT surgeon who said
the vinegar and spices used to make pickles anesthestizes the vocal folds and the effect last up to 30 minutes in most instances. However, he also said when you loose your voice from overuse, this was just a short term remedy--not a cure. The cure is to gargle with warm, salt water (1 tsp. per 8 ounce glass) 4 times a day and allow your voice to rest for a few days. I've had one polyp removed from my vocal folds, and it scared the hell out of me.

I don't have to work hard to sing, I don't have to strain my voice to belt out a song, but I have a relatively deep voice, therefore not as subject to sore throat problems from overuse. But, when it does get sore, and the soreness lasts for more than a day or two, I head for the ENT doc--just to be safe. A lot of famous singers died from throat cancer--I don't want to be one of them.

Don, Make that check payable to: Doctor Gary!
Posted by: DonM

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 06:28 AM

This morning it is a full-fledged cold. Coughing, runny nose, body ache, etc. Oh well, the shows must go on. Alka Seltzer Cold, Ibuprofen--whatever's in the cabinet.
I'm leaving in 30 minutes for the first of my three jobs. This one is outdoors on a flatbed trailer. The second is at a retirement center at 5:00 and the third at the supper club at 7:30.
Later,
Don
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 02:51 PM

Ain't self employment wonderful!

Stay healthy,

Gary
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 07:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
Ain't self employment wonderful!
Stay healthy,
Gary


Yeah , you NEVER get a chance to call in SICK !!!
t.
Posted by: StPatrick

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 08:48 PM

If I have a strained voice I find 2 things help: turn the gain up on your mic so u can sing softer and not strain, and make sure your monitor is REALLY loud and clear so u can hear yourself really well for the same reason. In ear monitors are the best option if u can get used to them. (And with keyboardists you can save a bundle because you don't need a wireless version.)
If your mic is hot and you can hear yourself well, you can sing for days.
Posted by: btweengigs

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 09:12 PM

Don...
Been there many times myself...and as I was playing tonight I thought about you and your 3 gigs hoping you muddled through. Throat and voice problems can really throw a damper on the party...even if no one else notices.

Eddie
Posted by: DonM

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 09:43 PM

I made it through all 3 jobs. Even played a half-hour extra at the last one. Now for some zzzzzzzzz.
DonM
Posted by: StPatrick

Re: Vocals almost gone - 05/14/05 10:00 PM

OMG Don, you are a true professional. One thing I have told people who work with me is that this is one job where you simply can't call in sick unless you are in a "persistent vegetative state" AND have an acceptable replacement. Especially if you have already spent your deposit, lol!