[QUOTE]Originally posted by lahawk:
[B]Alec..Thanks for that Web Site. It's got everything
cheers, Larry, it certainly should have!
back to the similar sounds; of all the thousands of substitution combinations possible in the scenario of missing EWs there must be some combinations where the effect is less than with others, but that does not prove anything other that there may be some combinations where some pairs of ears cannot hear much of a difference.
Its just like saying you can't hear the difference between a steinway and a bosendorfer, or a b&h and a yamaha trumpet.
If you take the clarinet soloist and put it in sound edit and turn off the other two samples, just leaving the clarinet and compare it to the orchestral clarinet in ew02 they are quite obviously recordings of different instruments.
This is easily proved by duplicating them both in sound edit and then reversing the clarinet samples in the second pair without altering anything else, which will negate the effect of all other differences in the sound edit suite programming between the two samples, and simulate a nearest sample substitution in the event of an original not being present.
If you now compare the two sets of sounds they remain instantly recognisably completely different instruments, even though the tone, amplitude, filter and pitch mapping in the second set has been reversed, showing the original sample recording is the primary arbiter of instrumental timbre. This remains true even if you leave the other samples in the soloist clarinet, and play the top octave which is starting to get out of range anyway, you can still hear the different instruments.
Do the same 4 sound comparison with the classic clarinet, which uses a different sample again with no natural vibrato recorded and is arguably a closer match - though still obvioulsy a completely different instrument, with the EW clarinet, and the difference is again instantly clear in a direct comparison, and follows the sample quite independently of the sound edit parameters. Thus copying into sound edit and then substituting a different sample will not give you the same voice.
If you play one and then the other, particularly with a time lag for card swapping, or loading etc between them, relying on aural memory, I can easily see most people saying... it's a clarinet!
However with a direct A/B comparison of the type I describe you only need to play one note to easily recognise the difference.
You just need a more discriminating test, so I'm afraid there is no "wow" involved here