KN7000 Pads

Posted by: KeithB

KN7000 Pads - 08/19/03 02:17 AM

I have downloaded some Performance Pads. When I install them they individually go to USER 1 spot. How do I get three of them into User 1, 2 & 3? I tried Program Menus-Performance Pads- Phrase Copy to get the first loaded fron User 1 to User 3. But on loading the next it wiped out my new User 3!
Thanks for any help
Keith
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/19/03 03:14 PM

Hi Keith,
I must admit I haven't found a way of loading more than one set at a time from disk either, because when you load the 2nd set it definetely appears to wipe out your first set, even though you've moved it to a different position. ie 1 to 3.

The only bizzare way I can think of , would be to step record the 2nd set of pads to the sequencer, use the apc to smf convert and use the sequencer to pad function. Could be messy with pads 5 & 6 ,though because of the chord progression.

If you find a better solution, please let me know , too.

best wishes
Rikki
Posted by: Dave Shively

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/19/03 08:44 PM

Hi Keith and Rikki,
I had the same problem back in 2001 and Alec Pagida graciously gave me the answer to store 3 different pads sets in loading the pads. For example: in User 1 - Big Band Slow, User 2 - Big Band Fast, User 3 - Big Band Swing. All in 1 load of the pads. You condense the pads as follows: (Alec's Instructions):
SAVE YOUR CUSTOM SECTION IF IT IS NOT THE INITIAL.

1. load file 3
2. copy composer A to custom 3
3. load file 2
4. copy composer A to custom 2
5. load file 1
6. copy custom 2 to composer B (change direction in the screen).
7. copy custom 3 to composer C
8. save a new pad file only (page 2 all off, pads on.)
now repeat the above steps for file 6, 5 and 4 in that order, then again for 9,8,7.
This is used in condensing a pad disk with 10 files down to 4 files or you can pick out the pads in the 3 user banks that would go with one another. It seems around about way of doing it, but it worked for me and hopefully it will for you.
Best Regards,
Dave
Posted by: AlexGreen

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/20/03 10:53 AM

Hi Keith,

There is an easier way.

Start a performce pad file in your SD card.
Load it in and hit save and name it. Save only performace pad.

Do that to each and every Pad you want.
Whenever you are looking for say Waltz,big band ,ect. Just go to your performace pad file pick out the one you want and load it in and you are ready to go.

Alex
Posted by: Johnnie.c

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/20/03 01:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AlexGreen:


Hi Keith,

There is an easier way.

Start a performce pad file in your SD card.
Load it in and hit save and name it. Save only performace pad.

Do that to each and every Pad you want.
Whenever you are looking for say Waltz,big band ,ect. Just go to your performace pad file pick out the one you want and load it in and you are ready to go.

Alex


If you just save performance pads then all 3 banks are wiped every time you load & you cannot mix pads which the original question required, so your post is no solution & just describing the normal load procedures.
As I see it the only real solution is as described in Alec Pagida's book.
Johnnie
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/20/03 01:55 PM

Thank you Dave,
I'll give it a try. My solution was going to give me big headaches haahaa.

best wishes
Rikki

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Shively:
Hi Keith and Rikki,
I had the same problem back in 2001 and Alec Pagida graciously gave me the answer to store 3 different pads sets in loading the pads. For example: in User 1 - Big Band Slow, User 2 - Big Band Fast, User 3 - Big Band Swing. All in 1 load of the pads. You condense the pads as follows: (Alec's Instructions):
SAVE YOUR CUSTOM SECTION IF IT IS NOT THE INITIAL.

1. load file 3
2. copy composer A to custom 3
3. load file 2
4. copy composer A to custom 2
5. load file 1
6. copy custom 2 to composer B (change direction in the screen).
7. copy custom 3 to composer C
8. save a new pad file only (page 2 all off, pads on.)
now repeat the above steps for file 6, 5 and 4 in that order, then again for 9,8,7.
This is used in condensing a pad disk with 10 files down to 4 files or you can pick out the pads in the 3 user banks that would go with one another. It seems around about way of doing it, but it worked for me and hopefully it will for you.
Best Regards,
Dave
Posted by: AlexGreen

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/20/03 02:39 PM

To Johnnie "C"

The mother of all "Ghost writers in the sky".

Guess who.
Posted by: Johnnie.c

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/21/03 10:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AlexGreen:


To Johnnie "C"

The mother of all "Ghost writers in the sky".

Guess who.

It's a fact your so called easier way doesn't work and never will, which is obvious to anybody who has ever used the pads.
Posted by: KeithB

Re: KN7000 Pads - 08/21/03 07:03 PM

Dave & Alex
Thanks for the suggestions. Haven't had a chance to try them out. The room where my computer and keyboard are kept has been turned into a temporary storeroom due to building alterations elsewhere in the house!
Keyboard players come second to household essentials!!
Keith
Posted by: westy

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/06/05 01:53 AM

I have also been trying to load more than one set of pads into the user banks (I have a PR804) The only way I have found is to load a bank then save to the sequencer and convert to midi then reload individually, although I have not found a way of converting the solo banks this way yet. I was interested in trying Alec Pagida's method but am a little confused. How can the composer be used in this way, you cannot copy the performance pads to the composer. Has anyone been able to make this work or am I missing something. Can anyone explain this method further. Thanks
Posted by: fmlk4u

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/09/05 02:43 PM

Hi all,

Where can you downloads "pads"?

Regards, Fred
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Posted by: KeithB

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/09/05 05:35 PM

I got mine from here: http://www.psrtutorial.com/Files/OFintro.html
Regards
Keith
Posted by: UkTexan

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/10/05 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by KeithB:
I got mine from here: http://www.psrtutorial.com/Files/OFintro.html
Regards
Keith
Posted by: UkTexan

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/10/05 08:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by KeithB:
I got mine from here: http://www.psrtutorial.com/Files/OFintro.html
Regards
Keith


I tried this web site and downloaded some pad styles but how do I convert them to use on the KN7000? I have the Style Convert 2000 Universal software but it does not recognise the .pad files so I cannot convert them to Technics.
Regards Carol
Posted by: technicsplayer

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/10/05 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by westy:
I have also been trying to load more than one set of pads into the user banks (I have a PR804) The only way I have found is to load a bank then save to the sequencer and convert to midi then reload individually, although I have not found a way of converting the solo banks this way yet. I was interested in trying Alec Pagida's method but am a little confused. How can the composer be used in this way, you cannot copy the performance pads to the composer. Has anyone been able to make this work or am I missing something. Can anyone explain this method further. Thanks


there is no custom section on the 804 to copy to so you can't do the trick... stuck with the long way round.
Posted by: technicsplayer

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/10/05 10:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by UkTexan:
I tried this web site and downloaded some pad styles but how do I convert them to use on the KN7000? I have the Style Convert 2000 Universal software but it does not recognise the .pad files so I cannot convert them to Technics.
Regards Carol


rename the *.pad to *.mid, load into the sequencer, then in the pad menu select sequencer to pad copy, select a measure length, a track, and copy to a pad, then prepare for some editing to get anything that sounds good.
Posted by: KeithB

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/10/05 02:46 PM

Whoops sorry! I got my keyboards mixed up. I have a PSR3000 as well as a KN7000 and the multipad reference was for the Yamaha of course.
As an aside I am in the process of solving that confusion, I have my PSR3000 up for sale and hope to get a Roland G-70 (but will still keep the Technics). The Roland does nut have multipads.
Regards,
Keith
Posted by: westy

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/11/05 01:37 AM

Thanks Technics Player I have used the method I described to convert the pads but is there a way to convert the solo pads so that the chord progresion can be included.
Posted by: technicsplayer

Re: KN7000 Pads - 07/11/05 02:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by westy:
Thanks Technics Player I have used the method I described to convert the pads but is there a way to convert the solo pads so that the chord progresion can be included.


you're welcome, yes, it can be done, but the pad conversion only accepts input from a chord track, not an apc so you have to do this:

1 record the pad with easy record
2 apc to smf convert
3 go to sequencer track assign and change the apc to chord and ok it
4 step record the new chord track with the chord changes you have noted down earlier
5 now seq to pad convert, the chord progression will be done automatically
6 edit the pad in part setting for the same balance as the original and set synchro etc

user pad 5 or 6 will now be identical to the chord progression original.