trinity preload disk

Help!!!!! I am in trouble. I erased all programs and combinations in our chruches Trinity Pro X. Does anybody out there have the preload disks that came with the unit. I would REALLY appreciate connecting with someone who could email the files to me.

Please hurry, before the pastor ( who also plays ) find out.

keyed

Fear not my friend! The Trinity has a ton of support on the Net. If you simply want to reload the factory presets then go here. That will help you out a lot. http://www.korgnorthwest.com/KORG_Resets.htm

But if your pastor had saved any user patch then you'd need more help than I could give you. Best of luck!

Regards

Thanks for the replying. That is the site where i initially got in trouble. I resetted the entire keyboard thinking that factory "prog/comb" would be the default. WRONG!!! The unit initialized EVERY comb/prog.
My ultimate goal was to duplicate all comb/prog from my Rack ( home ) to the ProX at the church. When I download the preload files and load into the ProX, I only get banks A and B. Banks C and D are "initialized". I tried bringing my Rack to the church to midi dump all PCG, but banks C and D are still empty.

So long story short, I need help with getting factory prog/comb back on banks C and D.

Forgive me if I'm a little lost, here. You can get the facroty programs/combis on banks "A" and "B" with no problem. You also want to duplicate those same banks on "C" and "D" also (same sounds) ?

I don't recall getting a full set of seperate sounds on "C" and "D" with my Trinity Pro. Had to load them in. Those are my custom banks.

If you are trying to load banks "C" and "D" from the Trinity Rack unit, do those load into the Pro X's banks "A" and "B"? If they do you can then copy those banks (formerly "C" and "D" of the Trinity rack) into "C" and "D" of the Pro-X direct from the Pro-X. The load your preload "A" and "B" into the Pro X as usual.

Is this what you are trying to attempt?


-OKJ

One other thing. Would be a very good investment for you to get Kevin Goodman's Trinitro program. It will save all your banks into Korg PCG files, making it easy to transfer your sounds from Rack to keyboard or vice-versa. Worth the small amount he asks for it. Saves a lot of heartache, especially when something like this happens.

Two months ago I had a major glitch in the operating system and had to load an earlier version and then go back to the latest version to get the board to work. Had to reload all my sounds, too. If not for that program and having them saved, I would have been pulling out what little hair I have left.

--OKJ

My pastor bought the keyboard used, so banks C & D may be custom banks - I dunno. It had pathces on programs and combis banks A-D ( there may have been an S bank also, cannot be sure now ).

I guess my real question ( and objective )is:
If I reset the Rack to factory default, I get all 4 banks comb/prog. Can I assume that the ProX follows suit? Well actually not, because when the ProX resets, all sounds are initialized. So I need to load those banks. SO far I am able to load banks A and B. But not C and D. Why? Are the ProX banks C and D all custom banks? Then why would Korg build a Rack with 256 more sounds and not load them into the ProX ?

So far I have not been able to load banks C and D from the rack. I've been doing midi 'PCGS' dumps. I will try to dump only C&D from the rack into ProX banks A&B as you suggested when I go to the church 6/3.

Thanks

Also thanks for TRINITRO suggestion, I will look into it.

b bless'd

keyed

Also, the pastor found out.

keyed

Pastors always find out.

I believe if you have your programs/combis on a floppy disk, you can load them into whatever bank (A-B-C-D) you want by simply selecting that option. If your preload stuff is on floppy disk, go that route. If not, copy the PCG preload files onto a floppy and then load into the Pro-X.

If all else fails, definitely check out Trinitro. Wonderful tool just for the Trinity. Just for fun... what is the operating system version of the Pro-X?

Thanks.

--OKJ

I finally got a chance to check out the verison software. It is v 2.2.0 on the Pro X. Also I didnt have any success with the transfer of sounds again from Rack to ProX. Not sure why since I am dumping all PCGS into the ProX. This time I couldn't get anything into the ProX from the Rack. But diskettes worked - only for banks A and B. I may have to load trinitro and bring my PC to the church - a little difficult since I don't have a laptop. The ProX has options PBS, DI, and HDR. Not sure if this makes any difference. If you have any other suggestions I am all ears.

Keyed

Since you have all the options, and can't see banks "C" and "D", I would first of all load in the latest version of the Korg operating system for the Trinity. It is 3.1.1 and you can get in on the Korg site. You could also obtain it, I believe on the Yahoo Trinity users group. Follow the directions. BE CAREFUL!!!

I also think you'll need to re-initialize the PBS-TRI that gives you banks "C" and "D". I've had to do that at least once and certainly had to after the unit was installed. There should be a disc that comes with it to allow that. If not let me know. That should do the trick.

Also, patches from the Rack and the keyboard will transfer nicely back and forth. The only caveat to remember is that the Rack has more multisamples (32mb ROM vs keyboard's 24 stock ROM). Any rack patches that utilize the additional multisamples will produce no sound on the keyboard. All multisample names and numbers are the same otherwise. Basically, if you dump all keyboard patches into the rack they will sound the same. Same for the rack into the keyboard unless the patch uses the additional multisamples. I just got the rack this week and discovered that through a little help from the Trinity users group.

Keep me posted.

--OKJ

On second thought on that operating system, unless you have the V3 option installed , it won't work. Check the Korg web site for the latest and see what you can load. Sorry about that.

I will hold off on the update then.

My pastor bought the ProX used and only GOD Himslef knows where the diskettes are. I downloaded the files from korg, and will try them tommorrow. But how do you re-initialize the PBS-TRI? Is that the same as power on, "Enter and 0". ANd are you saying that this will give me the factory C and D banks? How did you get the files to transfer between the rack and ProX- Midi dump PCGS? That's where I need the help.

keyed

OK, I checked my PBS-TRI manual and I saw nothing about diskettes. I thought there was one for it but I am probably wrong.

I am assuming you can see banks "C" and "D". Is that correct? If you can we will be ok here.

You need Kevin Goodman's Trinitro program. You can dump the sounds you want from banks "C" and "D" from the rack into Trinitro and save them each as a PCG file. In the program options you want to select rack when you attempt to download from the rack. You also want to insure you ENABLE EXCLUSIVE before you attempt the download or it won't work.

You would then copy those to a floppy disk and take to the keyboard. Go to disk mode (with the floppy containing the rack PCGs) and select bank "C" to dump rack bank "C" programs and combis and then do the same for bank "D". Should load no problem.

I'm going to load some of the rack patches into the keyboard this week. My trinity Pro is also at church. I got the rack to use with my EMU Proteus Esynth Emulator to work out patches while I'm at home.

I saved the original keyboard patches in Trinitro and also save the rack patches when I got the unit this week. Some of the stuff is different, notably in bak "C" (at least on my used unit). FoOund several patches and a couple two combis I liked and copied them over to my keyboard banks saved in Trinitro. Very slick. (I had empty slots in bank "D" just for this purpose as it is my performance bank primarily.) I'll then copy the PCG of that file onto a floppy and load it into the keyboard this week.

Keep me posted.

--OKJ

--OKJ

OKJ,

You've been a great help. I can see banks C and D. It's just that they are initialized, which are of no use. I will be going back to the church wednesday and thursday. I am about 38 miles from my church. Its a california thing to commute that far. I hope to try what you suggested this week. Sounds like it should work though. I will let you know the outcome.

keyed

I have used Trinitro to save my Trinity Rack sounds to hard disk. Have then used copy and paste to add some of the rack sounds to my custom "D" bank for live curch performance.

Loaded the sounds via floppy. Put in the floppy, hit "Disk" and the PCG name comes up. Hit "Open" and the PCG becomes Programs, Combinations, Global, and Drumkits. I selected "Programs" and was given a choice of what bank to load and where. You should have no problem "keyed" on getting you pastor's Trinity back to where it was. Let me know.

--OKJ

OKJ,

I haven't been able to look into it for a while. We just had a big production. I did download trinitro, but am having some configuration problems. No comm. hopefully this 3 day weekend should help me out with some time. Again I appreciate your help

keyed

Sounds good. Should work for you. What type of config problems BTW?

--OKJ

Hello Johnson,
I also have trinitro and ive tried to figure out how to do some things.
Ok,
I have the PBS-TRI board installed.
If I load pcgs to the trinity, will I have to reaload the entire 7 disks again and again, if I make changes to the PCG?
Or, does the PBS sounds remain ok?
Im kind of confused on this aspect.

thanks for your help..

best,
musikman

Hello,

The samples remain into the Trinity flash ROM (hehe, the Triton has RAM and we must reload all the samples at each power on)