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#504980 - 02/20/22 09:07 AM EQ Old Ears
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At 90, my ears are creating a problem. What sounds good to me, sound sharp to others with normal ears. What sounds good to other people, sound muddy to me.

If I play music for the groups that meet at my home – or go to my neighbors with my KMA, (easy to carry) how do I set an acceptable EQ?

I have given this problem much thought --- I am looking for some suggestions.
Thank you, John C.

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#504981 - 02/20/22 03:31 PM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: bruno123]
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Impressive at 90! Do you have monitors? I find the same at my age. It gets better when I mix through Yamaha HS7s. I pay a bit more attention in toning down the treble in my studio. These particular monitors bode well with my QSCK8.2s live too.
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#504982 - 02/21/22 12:45 AM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: bruno123]
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I might be wrong but since you have been a piano tuner for many years, it could be a matter of perception. When I am forced to have my Bose close to me, I perceive too much bass, but when checking the room out, and asking people, I find the eq fine. That addesses the muddy problem, but unless you are playing guitar, how can you be sharp with a KMA?
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#504985 - 02/21/22 12:24 PM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: bruno123]
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Consider yourself fortunate to still have some degree of hearing left to work with. Keep in mind that as we age, men tend to lose the high frequency sounds, while women tend to lose the low frequency sounds. The best way to compensate for this is with hearing aids - in fact, it is the only way. Hearing aids will allow you to adjust and amplify the frequency that you have lost, thereby correcting your EQ so you will hear the sounds normally. Monitors will not do this. I, and several others on this site, have experienced the same problem over the years, and I found myself cranking up the high EQ on the keyboard, higher and higher so I could hear those high hat cymbals, strings, steel guitars, etc, while audience members with normal hearing were complaining that the sound was too loud. After purchasing hearing aids, I knew exactly what they were talking about, and I was able to make the adjustments.

Hope this helps,

Gary cool
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#504986 - 02/21/22 01:07 PM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Keep in mind that as we age, men tend to lose the high frequency sounds, while women tend to lose the low frequency sounds.

Gary cool


That could save a marriage. She can't hear him and he can't hear her. Win win.

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#504988 - 02/21/22 07:49 PM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: bruno123]
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#504990 - 02/22/22 06:09 AM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: travlin'easy]
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Hi Gary, I always read all your post You are an Amazing Person. Always offering Help to everyone! Hearing aides are coming soon for My ears. I still do sound for special events at My Church. My left ear is getting bad. Still happy with your Bose aides? I think they will be ordered in the near future. Sincerely Harold

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#504992 - 02/22/22 08:47 AM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: bruno123]
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Yes, the Bose aids really work well for me. I have a friend, though, that has severe hearing loss and thus far, no hearing aids, regardless of the brand or cost, have helped him. He now is becoming a lip reader.

All the best,

Gary
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#504993 - 02/22/22 10:57 AM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
I might be wrong but since you have been a piano tuner for many years, it could be a matter of perception. When I am forced to have my Bose close to me, I perceive too much bass, but when checking the room out, and asking people, I find the eq fine. That addesses the muddy problem, but unless you are playing guitar, how can you be sharp with a KMA?


I don't John meant that the pitch was sharp, but rather the tone/EQ was perhaps too bright.
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#504997 - 02/22/22 02:03 PM Re: EQ Old Ears [Re: zuki]
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I lost my right ear about 5 years ago. On the band stan my right ear faced the band – same for tuning a piano. My left ear is still holding. Yes, we lose the high notes as we age. Two years ago, I gave up tuning.

Gary, I do consider myself fortunate in many way. I still drive my car, go shopping, attend meetings, and lead classes. But, thnaks.

Now let’s get back to my original post; I posted the reason (question) for my post poorly.

1-If I set the EQ to what I am listening to, it will sound sharp/bright to the good ears.
2-If they, the good ears, set it, it will sound muddy.
My question is: How are others players on this forum handling this. (if it’s possible) Opinions??????
Thanks, John C.

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