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#39692 - 03/26/03 11:36 AM Lyrics on Midis
RMepstead Offline
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Here's an interesting question I was asked the other day...
How do you type in the Lyrics on a midi file that you have made on the KN7000?
Come to that is there a great web site that primarily provides midi files with the Lyrics in place?
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#39693 - 03/26/03 01:29 PM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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in any number of pc programs, cubase, cakewalk, midi connections, powertracks, gn midi, keysoft lyrics editor, sibelius, finale, noteworthy, etc etc.

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#39694 - 03/26/03 02:10 PM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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"Come to that is there a great web site that primarily provides midi files with the Lyrics in place?[/B][/QUOTE]"

Hi Roger
To answer the last part of your question, one site you might like to try is: [URL=http://www.aitech.ac.jp/~ckelly/midi/help/midi-search.html.] Use the Van Basco search which will also give you the option to select only midi files with lyrics.
John


[This message has been edited by John North (edited 03-26-2003).]

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#39695 - 03/26/03 05:36 PM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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karaoke files have a different lyrics format to midi and generally will need converting in a program such as gn midi or the Andy Gittings converter before the lyrics will show in the screen.

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#39696 - 03/27/03 02:38 AM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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Thanks very much chaps - now all I've got to do is remember who asked me the question!!!
Certainly it's a challenge to look at the words on the display screen as well as reading the sheet music 12 to 15 inches higher - do think I'll get a vertical version of tennis watchers twitch....
Cheers
Roger M
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#39697 - 03/27/03 03:01 AM Re: Lyrics on Midis
Mike ORegan Offline
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While on the subject of Lyrics, maybe Alec can explain how to add lyrics to a Technics Sequence. Although the Sequencer Play screen shows a lyrics function, there is no mention of this in either the manual or the new book! (unless I am mistaken).
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#39698 - 03/27/03 07:05 AM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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4.12 tells you the answer. If midi can be loaded as technics with lyrics, then technics can be saved as midi, lyrics added in an external program, then saved as technics again.

However with all the extremely clear and detailed instructions and multiple score and leadsheet demonstrations of slideshows in the new book, it does not take a great leap of imagination to realise that this is yet another valid method of displaying lyrics.

In fact, in exchange the small sacrifice of word highlights, you gain an enormously easier overall process with a huge saving in time and effort, requiring only the most basic graphic program rather than a specialist pc sequencer, having the entire screen available for display in the largest fonts you should wish to create, and there is nothing to stop you displaying score, chords AND lyrics in a slideshow.

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#39699 - 03/27/03 08:48 AM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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There is no such thing as an unusual keyboard, and the reason you have been able to rename kar files as mid and see the lyrics in the kn screen may be because your kar files either happened to have both formats programmed in the first place or maybe started out as midi files renamed to kar.

I have thousands of kar files. They have lyrics embedded in track 2 as general purpose text meta events, the original specification. The kn reads standard tune 1000 format lyrics which are embedded in track 1 as true lyric meta events, a different format.

Many sequencer programs allow conversion between the two standards for this very reason. Thus it is just incomplete information to say that all kar file lyrics can be displayed in the kn screen just by renaming to mid, since only some will.

This becomes apparent from a wider experience of actual experimentation and the necessary good understanding of theory

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#39700 - 03/27/03 03:06 PM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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Quote:
Originally posted by technicsplayer:
4.12 tells you the answer. If midi can be loaded as technics with lyrics, then technics can be saved as midi, lyrics added in an external program, then saved as technics again.

However with all the extremely clear and detailed instructions and multiple score and leadsheet demonstrations of slideshows in the new book, it does not take a great leap of imagination to realise that this is yet another valid method of displaying lyrics.

In fact, in exchange the small sacrifice of word highlights, you gain an enormously easier overall process with a huge saving in time and effort, requiring only the most basic graphic program rather than a specialist pc sequencer, having the entire screen available for display in the largest fonts you should wish to create, and there is nothing to stop you displaying score, chords AND lyrics in a slideshow.


I must be thick - neither your answer (above) nor para 4.12 of your book gives the answer to my original question "Can lyrics be added to a Technics sequencer file?"
BTW, I HAD realised that slide-show could be used to display scores and lyrics, but I am sure that many owners don't realise this, so it might be a good idea to elaborate a little.
Mike O'R

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#39701 - 03/27/03 05:11 PM Re: Lyrics on Midis
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Peter:

Your original proposition was that simply renaming kar files as mid would enable the lyrics to be seen in the kn screen. If this is so, can you explain how come I have several thousand kar files for which this does not work?

Could it be that getting personal is a tactic to try and divert attention away from the fact that you are quite unable to provide an answer to this question?

With no answer forthcoming from you it would seem to me that claiming to know more about a subject remains rather in the realms of fantasy when it is so simple to demonstrate that your assertion does not work for all kar files.

I have never claimed anywhere to know everything, neither do I force my opinions on anyone. These are your inventions to try and hide the fact that your assertion as a universal truth was just plain wrong.

best regards,

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