Do people really think they exist ? I'm not a professional scientist but I do have a basic understanding in the enormous power costs to get here from another system . Air , food , water , fuel , and of course how they got here ? If anyone has ever seen these crafts , do they think about how they travelled such a long distance ? When they hover over you and they make no sound , what kind of power could do such a thing . When you see one of our jets that can hover , or a helocopter you can hear them expending fuel and using a great deal of force to keep flying .
Perhaps someone like that does not view gravity as an obstacle . Perhaps these visiters don't travel through normal space , so the speed of light is no longer an obstacle and distance is not a problem .
It's true that 2+2 is the same there as it is here , but beyond that their thinking is vastly different .
If you asked it about God , and it said who or what is that ? After you explained , what if it said we have never believed in such things or had their own religions that they replaced with science . What would that mean for our belief system ?

I don't know about all that, but can anyone help me get the cap off of my aspirin bottle?

Seriously, there is no such thing as UFO's so don't bother yourself about it. Why the heck would they stroll around our planet with their parking lights on anyway?

...well, to show off their new flying saucer, for instance...

whether its true or false,it certainly makes interesting reading,as with crop circles (genuine?)etc,etc, it,s nice to see the scientists disprove if they can,lets face it there are a lot of unexplained puzzles,mike

Wow .... now I remember why I'm not crazy about bars in the first place.

I guess it's time to open a can of worms.
If we are the only example of intellegent life in the universe....
..then the universe, is in sad shape.
Okay..I've said my piece...I'm going back to bed. "cough!"

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Guess what'll happen if NASA's Pathfinder/Spirit/Freedom in MARS captured something waving back at its cameras.....omigosh!

Man, imagine the talk if there was REAL booze served here !

I didn't wanna tell you my great secret but now I see that you were enough clarified for the truth:

I am an E.T.!!!!

I came down with flight X-5534-alpha before it smashed down in Rooswell in 1954. I fortunality aborted here in Germany about two hours before the terrible thing happened. I was in mourning for a long time. Every year I'm laying down a chaplet for my deceased comrades...

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Well Dave , if they do booze it will be better than our's , so bring it on !
I do agree that life is not unique to just the Earth . That is just plain arrogant , and it puts human life on a pedistal that we do not deserve . The fact is though we don't know what's out there and we don't know yet all the possibilites that await us .
As far as what would bring someone here to watch us , perhaps it was when we first tested the atom bomb . Perhaps such an explosion has more impact in ways we don't understand , rather than just blowing shit up . It all happened after that anyway , these beings just saw us split the atom .

Well I think it's completely foolish for us to say we're the only ones. I think that just goes to show how ignorant we as a people can be.

How can we say it doesn't exist? Space is HUGE, and on the timeline we've only begun to explore what's out there. There are things out there that we've never seen (like the recent discovery of a new planet..... We can't physically see it, but by the math it's there.

I don't buy into 99.99% of the stories out there, but there are some that cannot be ignored. I don't buy into the little green people abducting everyone and impregnating women with their little alien babies, but there is a lot of hard evidence that cannot be explained either. Peter Jenning did a special a few weeks ago on UFO's. It was pretty good too.

Here's something to think about. Lets say the government released a story saying that ET has landed and it was all covered up over the years due to "national security" imagine how this nation and other nations would react. Just imagine how some religious extremists would act as well. I know there are a lot of people out there who are devoted to their religion and believe that God created man and woman and that's it. I think socially it would be absolutely nuts.

Are they visiting? I don't know..., never had the pleasure of taking a ride with them. All I got to say is if they are out there and visit us frequently I hope we stay on their good side Because if they have, their techology is YEARS ahead of ours. Hell we haven't even been back to the moon, and we did that over 30 years ago. They still talk about how hard that would be to do even with today's technology.

If ET stops by my door, I'm handing him a beer and a cigar

Squeak

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Thanx for inviting me, terrastrian! But my favor drink is vine and I would prefer smoking a joint...
Hey guys, you can't imagine how long those travels can last!!!

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Okay, no jokes about this thematic anymore! Sorry, but I couldn't overcome the temptation!



What the scientists say are the facts of what we know and what we will reach in the next time. But I guess their knowlegde about universe is much less than one percent.
There are endless posibilities in and with the universe. So many (near endless) things were needed to create an intelligent life form like the human being. Our minds create an endless count of ideas and dreams. And at the end we always make our dreams come true.
This means that we'll might be able to travel between space and time - somewhere in time. But at this moment I'm not able to explain how it will work - but the key is the abyss. That's all I know about distances and how to conquer.
The source of the energy could be a fusion power plant and the engine could affect the gravitation inside and outside the spaceship (or which else it would be). The life system could be a perfect recycling system.
Whatever you can imagine - these barriers have to be overcome at first - that's all. I have no doubts about reaching this point by scientists somewhere in time...



I don't guess that this would be a problem. The more we learned about the truth behind it all the more we lost the believe in religion (not in God itself!). But there must be a universal mind (or anything like that) who had started this program called UNIVERSE V1.0 ...

EDIT: There ARE other life forms anywhere out there. It's only a question of the relatively chance...
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I agree that the possiblities are endless . Stephen Hawkins believes that Warp Drive is possible , the big problem , power source . He said that we would have to generate the power of the sun during it's lifetime every second .
There is excelleration , if you jumped to just a fraction of the speed of light , you would be thrown against the back of the ship and squashed to a bloody spot . You need a dampning field for this .
Maybe they don't even travel through normal space .

Well, you know science fiction? There you can read what people vitually create in their minds. Those pictures we see are like beacons in our future sight. All we have to do is going this way step by step. I'm sure that any kind of technology will shoot those and any other troubles. Not now but somewhere in time when the time is right for us to quest the universe. Maybe our children or our children's children...
It's our turn to make the first step on this way and this means:

STOP HATE AND VIOLENCE
BREAK DOWN THE WALLS
LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE
GIVE UP BUSINESS AND MONEY
HELP EACH OTHER
TRUST IN ARTS, PHILOSOPHIE AND SCIENTIFIC

...forever...



There are a lot of problems to surmount - maybe more than we can imagine at this point. Another point for example is the time shift while traveling in light speed (Einstein's relativity theory). If you would take a flight in light speed around the earth then after landing you would notice that no friend of yours would have survived.
But indeed we will really shoot this trouble somewhere in time...

Oh, by the way, am I the only one who is thinking that I'm writing the same things again and again?



Maybe, maybe not, ... why don't we ask'em when they come in here?

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Einstein's thoery of E=MC2 pretty much means that if you somehow got to the speed of light then your mass would become infinite and you would become light or energy. Besides, how the heck you are supposed to see where you're going if you are moving at the same speed as light?

I've seen a UFO... that is, I saw something one evening that was flying at such incredible speeds that it couldn't be explained. Jets in the sky looked like they were crawling in comparison. And I've seen plenty of meteors in my day as well as satellites, the ISS and space shuttle flying in tandem, etc. and it wasn't any of those. Space is just too big to traverse so I'm more inclined to find another answer instead of "visitors from another planet"... that's just a cop-out. And the fact that our own government and many others seem so unconcerned - if there were aliens flying around we'd be doing a lot more than just trying to cover it up. Once you stop thinking about aliens, UFO's get a lot more curious.

Anyone who has ever been on death's doorstep knows that anything and everything is possible with God. Life is a miracle, intelligent life (ala humans) is spectacular. Who's to say we are the only ones, or one of millions of other miracles in the galaxies. In either case what we are is special and unique.

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There is no question that unidentified flying objects exist. I saw one tonight. It was moving in the sky, so it was flying. I saw it so it was an object. I didnt know what it was , so it was unidentified.

However, just because I couln't figure it out does not mean that aliens were responsible. So far there is no evidence of life on other planets. None. Zero. Zip. Nunca.


Douglas Wolfe

Yes! But it exists an evidence of life on other planets. There are small beings for example on Mars - microbes!!! This is a base form of life. Is there anyone who is interested in what will come out of it?

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Besides, how the heck you are supposed to see where you're going if you are moving at the same speed as light?

DaaaHHHH: Go at night.........Pose



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Well there are endless solar systems such as ours, its pretty vague to think that we are the only ones that sustain life. I know aliens exist, I know that there is more intelligent life in our space. But have they visited us? Who knows, i think it is very possible that they may have. But to travel a galaxy would require so much food, fuel ect, its pretty far-fetched.

PS: Sheriff... I got some reeses pieces

Phil

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>>>> evidence of life on other planets. There are small beings for example on Mars - microbes!!! >>>>

The objects that were identified as 'microbes' are most definitely NOT accepted as organic forms. First, they are way too big to fit into the definition of the bacilli they were inititally thought to resemble. Second they show no internal structure consistent with organic origin. Third they are easily explained as non-living mineral deposits. Finally they were not found on Mars but embedded in a meteorite found on Earth. Nobody has explained how a bacterium could have come to reside in the solid interior of a meteorite.

Douglas Wolfe

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Well, I guess that's another problem. How do we explain life? Is this the correct definition of life what our scientists said? I don't know...

But if you know the Miller's experiments then you should know that life is a consequence of some unorganic molecular compounds in combination with energy.

Hey, that's the secret of life: We are walking batteries who are striving for spending energy - most of time we create senseless things like this discussion about life on other planets...*lol*

What about spending energy for music? I didn't play guitar since 3 days...wow, I'm suffering from withdrawal of guitar playing...

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That is why I'm a man of science , not religion . A scientist will not jump the gun and say that a microbe or something that resembles one is life . Not until it is PROVEN to be so . Since our scientists are constantly pushing and pushing until they find that proof , either on Mars or the moons of Jupiter or Saturn , it's reallyjust a matter of time . When they find that absolute proof , you can go outside and look up at the stars and say " it's really happening out there " . Maybe at the same time you are doing that , someone lightyears away is doing the same .

5 UFOs have been positively identified!



Vinnie Moore - Pete Way - Phil Mogg - Jason Bonham - Paul Raymond


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Well said, LFO!


And at that time I'm playing guitar someone lightyears away is playing any kind of instrument that suits so good to mine...*dream*

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Sheriff ;-)

Ever tried working as a restaurant pianist? You are viewed as being an alien by the vast majority of diners!

They say there's no such thing, well you have to see it to believe it I suppose, but I'm not saying what I saw was from outer space.
It was 1981 the year for many sightings and speculations of UFOs.
After what I thought looked initially like a star, this thing turned into many colours, it started to move across the sky, stopped-went brilliant red and disappeared, and within seconds I saw a mushroom shaped balloon, that I estimated twice the height and the same width of my house. It turned on it's side and glided across the roof of my home, and as it went over the road just missing the other houses I could see the top of it and it was an ultra violet light that made it glow. The stem of it started to deflate and the noise was like one of those cheap black plastic bags. I went out looking for it and thought it would of come down in the next road, but that also disappeared. I also saw Police cars racing about. It was all in our local newspaper the next day, where people had seen sightings of different things, and this went on for a week or two.
Well we called the Bristol balloon club, but was told though they have a lot of shapes and sizes of balloons they didn’t have a mushroom shape. I read many years later that a mushroom shaped balloon was also sighted in China.

Well roughly a couple of weeks after that I saw three white lights in a row manoeuvring across the sky, no noise or nothing behind them. They were to far apart to be a plane or helicopter. When I first saw the lights they were far away in the sky and looked the size of tennis balls, but as they got closer they were the size of footballs. They rotated and shot off in different directions.
With the equipment that the RAF have you would think they would of picked up on both sightings on radar. but they deny ever seeing it. huh!

Keyboardcapers

over the years there has been a lot of talk about UFO,s of the 100, of 000,s sightings worlwide reported 98% have been explained one way or another by the authorities (many times dubious?)that still leaves 2% unanswered over 10,000,it certainly makes you wonder,mike

My Lord I can't believe reading about Ufo's here yesterday, and today right before sunrise I actually seen one!

We live on the East slopes of the Sierra Nevada's at about 5000 ft elv. This Am right before the sun came up I went out the back door headed for my studio, and Heard a lound transformer like humm. coming from the large mountain that almost straight up behind our home. I looked up and saw what looked like a large aluminium disk hovering just this side of the peak of the mountain, I froze thinking where I could run to, when It started to slowly move up to me. It got almost above me and stopped. This thing had to be 200 ft in diameter. The humming got almost quiet, and then I heard the sound of a finger tapping on a microphone and some crackling, and then a voice in broken english booming like coming from a PA over a football field, say pardooon me butwe have big troubles with our erquac stablzr, would you happen to have coopy of winddooo's Xp. staart disc.

I answered sorry I don't, they said tank yoou.
and the disk started to rotate very slowly, as it did it had big letters that came into view that said Y A M A H A TYROS II

April 1, 2005..........Pose

I heard that the TYROS III did a way with that "transformer like humm" ... and don't be fooled by the "WE" have big troubles... Everyone knows that the TyrosII is designed for a crew of 1 being with short wing span.

No way ! Aliens are too smart to use sample playback crap . They would use a real synthesizer , not an overpriced casiotone . Ain't no buzz or hum with a real synthesizer .