deep purple,Iron Maiden,Van Halen,Yngwie Malmsteen are still a big hit in India(Bharat/Hindustan).....virtuosity is absent in present rock scene.Do you agree?

32nd note solo played on guitar sounds better
or does it sounds better if played by a sequencer?

i personally dont like esoteric masturbatory guitar solos that only guitar players can appreciate...

but they soung much better on a real guitar adn are more believable because you can do a lot more on a guitar rather than a synth recreation

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I don't like fake quitars. Some really distorted chords can sound great in industrial style music, like Frontline Assembly or Front 242. Wailing electric guitars made with synths tend to remind me of those demo songs you hear in shops.

-tek

I never liked rock at all . I started listening to Kraftwerk when I was 4 and Autobahn was on the radio . The only rock I ever cared for was new wave rock like Flock of Seagulls and Gary Numan . To me it's just music to sell beer to and get a girl drunk enough to give up the slop bucket .

I don't listen to rock without keyboards. Yes, I play keyboards but guitar-based rock bores me and lacks color. And I like it to have a touch of R&B/jazz flavoring as well, ala Allman Brothers who are still without peers today more than 20 years after their start. Today I listen mostly to Sting and Seal, both of whom have the good taste to leave out the rock power chords in their music and still blow the roof off. The future of rock? Good taste...

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Rock is excellent. I can't stand the loop based dance/trance/techo garbage. Nothing worse than listening to a 6 minute loop centered around a drum and bass groove. All of this candy cutter bubble gum pop crap from Spears and the gang has got to go as well. Actually, it's already on the way out. Rock has many forms, personally I think it's at it's best when it's a simple, powerful, song structured so you can tap your feet and sing along with it. If you look at the big picture of rock it is coming back big time. Right now it's at a more pop oriented structure. (Nickleback, Puddle of mud, etc.) Which is fine, that's some good stuff. Most listeners go through a variety of styles, but as you get older almost everyone comes back to listen to some rock tunes. When was the last time anyone over 21 listened to a Brateny Spears or Ricky Martin song? You're only a young adult for about 25 years of your life, think about the kind of music you will listen to for the next 40 years of your life after you turn 25. When you're in your 30's and above it's cool to tap your feet, sing along with some classic tunes, it ain't cool to dance to a bubble gum pop song. Sorry...

NickelBack and Puddle of Mud are pretty good, but do not compare to the earlier 90s rock bands. Something has to give soon with music. Most of it out there is pure garbage.

The best modern rock out there (in my opinion) is that which has a traditional, cool, 70s influence, really influenced by lou reed, and the velvet underground, that kind of stuff, but which has incorporated new technology, especially (non-cheesy sounding) electronic sounds for texture and colour. Definitely guitar based, and riff-based, but with out wanky, over the top wailing solos in the style of virtuoso rock or cock rock. I'm talking about bands like the Dandy Warhols, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, the Jesus and Mary Chain etc, even Queens of the Stone Age. The fact that the songs are reasonably simple add to their appeal, for me. It means everyone can relate to them, unlike esoteric guitar solos. I'm always going to be in love with the original early velvets stuff though, it just can't be beaten.

Experimental rock, such as radiohead is also really good, but on a different, more cerebral level. This stuff isn't for everyone.

No way that R.O.C.K. can ever come down,
atleat in US,no need to giv clarification as i generally download music from kazaa and the sahring 'n dwnloading of rock is at real high pace.U check ur self.

i agree. just because it doesn't have the huge profile of contemporary pop or mainstream electronic, doesn't mean that quality rock isn't being shared and enjoyed.

The ONLY thing about being cool at all, is dancing or listening to what YOU like. No one can tell you what cool is. It's personal. It's an attitude. Stay cool.

I just love it when some one says that rock had not produced any good, hard music. Usually this equates to a lack of hard rock venues or stations in the area. Groops like Megadeth, Pantera. and others have been out there rocking their collective as*es off. Unfortunatly, Megadeth had broken up, but they did leave us with one last kick'n album. Also the last live album (their only live one) is killer. I was at that show. You might want to check out Rush's new album, you might be suprized.

Music styles run in cycles. Right now it's kinda like a throwback to 1982, with all the Punk Pop and Neo Nu Wave stuff.

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www.meriphew.com

Shocked...that rock may ever come to end,i download music from kazaa.com and after every few days ,i found new rock music files lying there.Guys go 'n check kazaa,u surely like it.

Yes kazza is good, imesh too as well as that one client proggie that musiccity owns (forgot the damn name of it!) I still think WinMX rules (now @ v.3.22) though. The client proggie is for the control freaks in us
Topic: future of rock?

Well, the genre will always be, along with its long line of subcatagories.
No keyboardist enjoys bunk timbre and / or envelope of incapable devices.

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The plucked string is a helluvalot more than just tricky enveloping, when the string is sounded many elements and stages affect it's sound. Of mechanical theory and physics, there is no such thing as a tuned guitar for many reasons. When the string is first plucked (or picked), it plays at it's sharpest frequency until it finds its divisional resonant point where it's dynamics extend the longest until the vibration is not forcefull enough to hold the packeted or quantum groupings of vibrations, then finally leaving the entire string vibrating whole and singular. The tension of the string itself is what causes the string to diminish vibration. While all these events are going on, the pitch itself goes moreso flatter until (theoretically speaking) vibration has halted completely. The previously said events are all discreet to one another and controlled by the strings properties, it's outside enviorment, and the method used to vibrate the string. All the above creates the frequency and it's dynamic envelope of pitch and amplitude. That is why it is so darn cotton pickin hard to accurately duplicate a guitar's sound, only emulations so far, but maybe someday soon.

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The best puesdo guitar I have heard to date is Roland Corp.'s COSM technology. We have to shake our heads and say "yeah, well...what's up then?" Well what's up is a minor glitch that the electronic device that produces the COSM signal does not bear the properties of an electronic synthesizer. It would be better classed as a lightning fast responsive controller / sampler-player combo. Another thing that does not help us is that the controller is not a keyboard, its a guitar. For the keyboardist that does not know the fretboard, applied COSM for the keyboardist is about as useful as the square root of zero, give or take a 60Hz humm. I call COSM this error because it's original thought of design was for a keyboardist-synthist to be able to jamm out some electric guitar sounds. After finding that they (Roland) did not have a method to modulate the sound model properly with the correct envelope, they were forced to use a guitar as a controller. It resulted in the reciprical of their intention (of course they would never admit to that). Instead of the synthist being able to pump power chords, they wound up with a guitarist that could arpeggiate and trigger control and modulation functions via MIDI OUT.

WARNING, THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF POSTING IS NOT MUCH BETTER, YOUR EYES MAY HURT BY NOW. THIS IS NORMAL.
You know, it's a shame cawse the flippin thing sounds great. All that great modeled sound, and there's no market for it. I know one thing, no music store sells more VG's than they do Guitar/Amp combos of equal price. I think it's an analog digital thing. It would be safe to say that more keyboardists have a home computer and e-mail, than say.....drummers and guitarists. This is no downtalking by any means LOL I am never less than amazed of what I have seen drummers (guitarists too) do, have, and come up with, plus they get all the chicks of course.
MORPH!

Munsie..

..[sigh],

and,

[sigh].

LOL yeah I know it was a long post but it saved my ass.
here's something to sigh about.

You try drinking a 6 pack of red bull and run to the synthzone because you discovered that you have to take secluded cover from the wife dropping yelling, laughing, crying PMS bombs everywhere. Down on the lower level, I can tell because she is little and it's the only time she walks heavy footed, and it was right about that time. Patt myself on the back for putting an outside entrance in that room (which may or may not double at times as an escape pod).It came in handy that day.

Bon Jovi rule!