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#507986 - 03/17/23 04:28 AM Medeli AKX10
guitpic1 Offline
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Any interesting discussions on this keyboard anywhere?

I’m not interested, at this point, to buy one. Mostly curious.


Edited by guitpic1 (03/17/23 04:30 AM)
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#507987 - 03/17/23 07:14 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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#507989 - 03/17/23 09:08 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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It's your money, but IMO you're better off with a gently-used PSR.

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#507990 - 03/17/23 11:29 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
DannyUK Offline
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Hi guitpic1,

I was very curious about this keyboard so I tracked one down. I had it for a week and then sent it back. It lasted a week only because I tried so hard to like it but it was just after a few hours I knew already how I felt.

Cosmetically it's very pretty especially the display and colourful dashboard where you can even customise and change the back-lit colours of the buttons, but ultimately I just could not get on with the vital thing - most of the sounds and styles. To my ears, it really reminded me of mid range PSR's of the 90s and of that era. Not that they were bad, I guess I am saying just sounds dated. The styles are not very inspirational and found them quite bland, nothing stuck out. The drums were the worst thing for me, they were OK in certain categories like Ballads but in something like the Latins, especially, they sounded horrible. It is just my opinion though because I don't want to put off any potential buyers. It is a good price for what you get especially in terms of features, options and cosmetics.

In contrast, I recently owned an SX600 (I think they are similarly priced) and there is no doubt the SX600 blows it sonically.

I agree with TedS I think any PSR of the last 10 or 15 years will sound better but it does depend on one's needs and what someone would want from it. But that's my experience of it anyway if it helps at all.

All the best,
Danny


Edited by DannyUK (03/17/23 11:35 AM)

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#507991 - 03/17/23 12:53 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Edited by mc2pereira (03/17/23 12:55 PM)

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#507993 - 03/17/23 01:41 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Hi ,I was browsing thru the manuals style recording section, the style structure sounded like the early psrs. No guitar mode, no mega voices. Even though it may be loosely based on Yamaha, it’s not a psr.

It will probably suit people that use samples and create their own styles. I wouldn’t imagine it would suit the Yamaha fans.


The guy who did the Medeli vs Ketron Event video, clever bit of marketing . You get everyone’s attention, basically bashed the Ketron, while not promoting the Medeli too much.
Then you find out he’s planning on adding Medeli to the list of arrangers he creates samples and styles for. Also in its basic form it’s a fairly average machine. By the time you end up adding the sample libraries, no longer quite so inexpensive.
Clever bit of marketing and good on him. He has a heap of Medeli videos on his site.
https://youtu.be/jzQrOzFsp4I
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#508005 - 03/18/23 04:42 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
guitpic1 Offline
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Hello All

Thx for the responses.

I own a Genos that I used and paid for by gigging. It’s in storage now.

It had been three years since I had been gigging. So I called up my rep at Sweetwater and got a deal on the SX 900 to use to play at home with friends…and maybe gig again.

I’m not buying a Medeli but when the SX900 is three times the cost of the Medeli…I did get curious.

Also I understand that the Medeli has 256 polyphony?

I can’t figure out why the SX900 has only 128 and so little on board storage. In this day and age, that seems to make my SX900 lacking somewhat.

I have put in a number of hours converting my Genos registrations to the SX900. Works well but is quite tedious with all the many steps involved in converting and saving registrations. 😊

Thx again all


Edited by guitpic1 (03/18/23 04:48 AM)
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#508007 - 03/19/23 11:12 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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I currently have one, and the value is in amount of features for price. Still working through it. I augment it with a ketron sd1000 which improves sound greatly.
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#508008 - 03/19/23 01:38 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: sparky589]
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Hi Sparky, how are the styles, is there enough variety ?
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#508010 - 03/19/23 01:49 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Just a simple question, but why if you already have a Genos, would you play anything less?
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#508028 - 03/22/23 09:24 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Why would you go from a supersonic plane to the wright brothers?
LOL! anyhow although I have a PA4x I also have the the Medeli, it is a very powerful arranger for the money, but it needs work and knowhow which is a slight difficult learning curve for me, as far as the video done on the comparison Medeli vs Ketron he is not trying to promote the Medeli, because he makes the best worldwide sample for all the arrangers except the Ketron because Ketron was always a closed system to make your own.
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#508030 - 03/23/23 01:24 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Thing is, yes although good ‘for the money’, it is still in a totally different price category to things like the Event, Genos or PA4X, and totally different capability.

I still don’t get the need, once you have the TOTL why anyone would want to spend a ton of time learning a new OS on a cheap arranger when you already have mastered the best thing available. As was said earlier, wouldn’t all that time and effort be better used improving your playing, expanding your repertoire, or exploring maybe little used parts of your current TOTL arranger, like its sampler or style creation tools..?!

Time is the one thing that’s finite. Yes, you may have enough money to buy as many arrangers as there are, but there’s still only 24 hours in a day. What’s your time worth? Every hour spent trying to set up a new low end arranger is an hour you didn’t spend improving your TOTL one…
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#508032 - 03/23/23 03:11 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Yes Vangelis, it's imperative (as well as a forum rule) that you MUST justify everything you've purchased WITH YOUR OWN MONEY. Whatever happened to "I'll buy whatever I want and You buy whatever YOU want" and neither of us needs to be made aware of what a terrible decision we've made. Oh well, seems to be a common theme these days. Probably done with good intentions, but extremely annoying. Just my .02 cents.

chas
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#508035 - 03/24/23 03:48 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: cgiles]
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sadly ...
less and less people...
Hard to suffer a guru sniper!
I think members are bored and leaving.. confused1
P.S. I was not speaking about Ukrain. smile
... and I have a screen copy.


Edited by Ingres (03/24/23 03:53 AM)
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#508036 - 03/24/23 04:23 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Hello All

I bought the SX900 to play at home, with friends. Wanted something easy to transport with built in speakers so I didn’t have to set that up every time.

Genos was paid for by my gigging jobs and is currently in storage(in my house)
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#508037 - 03/24/23 04:32 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Maybe this will help understand having the SX900 and Genos

https://youtu.be/aUppBsYEu6o

😊👍
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#508042 - 03/24/23 08:44 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Maybe people are bored and leaving because they have nothing tangible to contribute except for sniping at actual discussions. Please feel free to take your dissatisfaction with the forum elsewhere before we start pruning people who have absolutely nothing to say but complaints.

Either be a part of the discussion, or go somewhere else. I am sure you’ll find something to bitch about there. No doubt they’ll look at your ‘contribution’ with the same disdain I do.

Last and final warning.
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#508043 - 03/24/23 10:21 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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#508044 - 03/24/23 10:27 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
Ingres Offline
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Thinking of buying a Medeli tooo

no need to swich on mixer, PA ,... usable within few seconds to snap rapidly something

To each one his needs smile

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Edited by Ingres (03/24/23 10:28 AM)
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#508045 - 03/24/23 01:56 PM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Hi, a friend found a style site that is planning on doing styles for Medeli, not exactly cheap, but they do sound good on the keyboards they already make styles for.
Whether or not they suit the music one plays is personal thing. Good sign if developers are creating styles and samples for it.
https://www.lazmanstudios.com/
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#508107 - 04/05/23 04:10 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
solomon8 Offline
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Registered: 12/20/05
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I have the AKX10 and the Genos. Of course the Genos sounds much better than the AKX10. However, I have found the AKX10 to be a blast. I have had so much fun with all of it's features. For the money you can't beat it. I think the sound quality is in the range of the Korg PA50. Sounds are subjective. I believe what makes music beautiful is how you play not what sounds you play. If that makes sense. Anyway, my bottom line is, it is well worth the money and more.

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#508112 - 04/05/23 08:19 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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Is it really worth the money compared to, say a used PSR-S950? How do the sounds and features stack up against a PSR from two generations ago?

Based on a thorough reading of the manual, it's my opinion that Medeli licensed or borrowed key parts of its OS from Yamaha. At the heart of every arranger is chord recognition, and Medeli omitted (or was unable to license) Yamaha's "AI Fingered" system, which is their most advanced mode, and IMO the only one worth using. Think also about a lack of third party or legacy styles. So what is the unique feature or key value proposition here?

My Daddy was an engineer and he always said, "Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door!" If I'm critical, it's because this isn't a better mousetrap; it fails to advance the state of the art on any frontier. They're just reselling a mature or reduced feature set at a lower price point, which will ultimately plant the seeds of remorse in the buyer. When Medeli's engineers come up with something unique and compelling, I mean really move the needle, then I would consider their product. I hope they keep trying. My $.02.


Edited by TedS (04/05/23 08:27 AM)

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#508115 - 04/05/23 11:20 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: guitpic1]
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I timed myself today. It took ten seconds to turn on my mixer and monitors.

I wish I was rich enough to buy another arranger to save me ten seconds a day!!! 😂🎹
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#508177 - 04/20/23 09:00 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: rikkisbears]
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Sorry Rikki I haven't been on in awhile. Definitely needs more latin styles..looking at gigastyle selections...
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#508178 - 04/20/23 10:23 AM Re: Medeli AKX10 [Re: sparky589]
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I'm finding I'm not playing it much; spending more time with stringed instruments. May let it go ($600)- packaged w sd1000 (addt'l $250)...mint .


Edited by sparky589 (04/30/23 08:16 AM)
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