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#489583 - 02/19/20 02:54 AM Are We Spoilt For Choice?
MusicalMemories Offline
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With today’s arranger keyboards we have 1000s of sounds at our finger tips, are we spoilt for choice ?
When you purchase your next arranger do you home in on the same sounds or experiment with other sounds.
How many of you go into sound categories that you wouldn’t normally use ?


Edited by MusicalMemories (02/19/20 02:56 AM)
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#489584 - 02/19/20 05:44 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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What ever floats your boat, song wise. I admit I don't use 3 layer RH as much as I should. Viewing some YouTube videos with layers has me reevaluating the possibilities, especially put to Reg Mem. I need to open this darn SX900 box soon computer
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#489587 - 02/19/20 05:57 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Zuki, whenever I put off 'opening the box', it's usually because I subconsciously dread the amount of work I know is ahead the second I open the box (reading the manual, learning the operating system, loading that first song into the new board and getting it to sound 'okay', where to physically put it in your gig configuration, early buyers remorse-AKA 'the Donny syndrome' smile , etc., etc. Better go ahead and bite the bullet smile.

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#489590 - 02/19/20 06:14 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I hear ya Chas! A lot of change from years of 3X work. I had the 3000 as my 1st live board (few years) and really liked it, at the time. The Y OS doesn't concern me, been there before!

I almost pulled the trigger on a 4X last night, but at the last minute decided no (another keyboard hanging around and some new monitors I bought could lead to a tongue lashing from my love).

By Friday (deadline to open / no turning back). I just know it would be a great compliment as a backup and exploration into new areas. Plus, a lot of smaller jobs might make this scenario work well. More interested in studio(ing) the Yamaha for its bread and butter sounds. Doubt if I will go live in the near future - 3X just too good still.

Who knows...at least I'm finishing up 13 straight months of remodeling my home - practice time has suffered a bit.





Edited by zuki (02/19/20 06:17 AM)
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#489592 - 02/19/20 06:38 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: zuki]
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Zuki will you be sharing a video of the SX900 Unboxing?....
sounds exciting!!

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#489594 - 02/19/20 07:12 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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When I bought my Kurzweil K2600X, I remember the sales guys at Sweetwater saying, get comfortable, have a seat we will bring in all the top Synth's and you try them out...THEN last we will bring in the Kurz AND you will hear that it's the SOUND of the Kurz that will win you over. They were right....so as to arrangers the sound is it for me...quality, realism, playability, that's what inspires me to play.....

So for the music I like, the Genos is it, I have the SX-900 just because of cost (looking forward to upgrading to Genos down the road).

Yep , we are spoiled as all of them are really great


Edited by leeboy (02/19/20 07:13 AM)
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#489597 - 02/19/20 08:27 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Agree about the Kurzweil. The sounds are absolutely to die for. Wish they would make a TOL arranger. That would be something.
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#489615 - 02/19/20 10:48 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Glad I'm sticking with my S-950 - very user friendly, sounds fantastic, nothing new to learn, and I can still be lazy like Don Mason and Chas. wink

I also noticed that Dean Peters wished he would have kept his S-950 as well. Hmmmm! I wonder how many others wish they would not have upgraded. Don't worry, Donny, we know about you already.

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#489617 - 02/19/20 10:53 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: travlin'easy]
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No problem gary......I already changed my avatar....hope your feeling better..

keep playing the heck out of the S950
it certainly was a pleasure playing if for a while also.

Take care buddy

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#489621 - 02/19/20 11:00 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I had an S950 and I only sold it at the time because I wanted to raise money to take my (now) ex girlfriend on holiday to Turkey where she wanted to go.

I love a good Jazz guitar, that's usually the sound I look for when I get a new keyboard, and I don't think there's been any keyboard I've owned that's had a bad sounding Jazz. Then your usual main sounds such as Piano, Sax, Flute etc..

Yeah maybe we are spoilt for choice in sounds? Do we really need that many these days? I think the SD7 has only around 300 or so, but the select few I've tried sound great. The SX900 and T4 has a lot lot more, maybe 4 times that amount! But some sound very similar. The synth sounds on the SX & T4 are superb as well as the vocals.

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#489625 - 02/19/20 11:10 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: DannyUK]
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Originally Posted By DannyUK
I had an S950 and I only sold it at the time because I wanted to raise money to take my (now) ex girlfriend on holiday to Turkey where she wanted to go.


WHAT ?!?!? surprised rolleyes eek2 dancers
Not even Donny has ditched a keyboard for THAT reason !!!
confused1

PS: Just fooling with you Danny ... whatever works ...
Oh, but I guess it didn't ...


Edited by tony mads usa (02/19/20 11:12 AM)
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#489627 - 02/19/20 11:14 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I've done the opposite. Ditched a high-maintenance girlfriend to buy a keyboard. Makes a lot more sense (to me).

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#489629 - 02/19/20 11:23 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Probably be a lot happier with the keyboard, as well. wink

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#489631 - 02/19/20 11:44 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Originally Posted By DannyUK
I had an S950 and I only sold it at the time because I wanted to raise money to take my (now) ex girlfriend on holiday to Turkey where she wanted to go.


WHAT ?!?!? surprised rolleyes eek2 dancers
Not even Donny has ditched a keyboard for THAT reason !!!
confused1

PS: Just fooling with you Danny ... whatever works ...
Oh, but I guess it didn't ...


rotfl this made me laugh !!!

No it didn't work out, but since I lost the S950, I gained a Pa1000, SX900 & SD7 !!!! I think I'd take that all day long!

And I also flirted with an S975 inbetween !! laugh


Edited by DannyUK (02/19/20 11:49 AM)

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#489632 - 02/19/20 11:52 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: DannyUK]
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Is there a 12 Step Arranger keyboard Addition program available? confused2

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#489639 - 02/19/20 12:11 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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You'd need more than 12 ol buddy! smile
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#489679 - 02/19/20 05:46 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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smile
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#489719 - 02/20/20 08:22 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa


WHAT ?!?!? surprised rolleyes eek2 dancers
Not even Donny has ditched a keyboard for THAT reason !!!


When I married my high school sweetheart, we had no money for the bedroom set she wanted, so I sold my (gulp) Rhodes to get it ... In retrospect, we SO could've fit on top of that thing! (just like Jack and Rose on that stupid, floating door)
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#489720 - 02/20/20 08:23 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Zuki will you be sharing a video of the SX900 Unboxing?....
sounds exciting!!

woot


Never, ever seen an unboxing video that held my interest for more than 30 seconds. Get to the good stuff - who cares about the stinkin' BOX!!!!
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#489721 - 02/20/20 08:26 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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I and many others await Zukis maiden voyage review on the SX900 compared to the Pa3x...hope it's soon.. confused1

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#489722 - 02/20/20 08:26 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Review, yes - unboxing .... nope
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#489726 - 02/20/20 08:48 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I am thinking about making an "unboxing" video... Girl Scout cookies smile
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#489727 - 02/20/20 09:41 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I am thinking about making an "unboxing" video... Girl Scout cookies smile


OK, I stand corrected. That "MAY" hold my interest.
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#489729 - 02/20/20 09:59 AM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I am thinking about making an "unboxing" video... Girl Scout cookies smile


OK, I stand corrected. That "MAY" hold my interest.



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#489751 - 02/20/20 12:13 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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I didn't think you'd actually go there. Not sure just how weird that is.
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#489754 - 02/20/20 12:23 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
I didn't think you'd actually go there. Not sure just how weird that is.


But did it hold your interest??? wink

PS: there is just TOO much 'stuff' on the internet !!!
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#489770 - 02/20/20 01:04 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Zuki will you be sharing a video of the SX900 Unboxing?....
sounds exciting!!

woot


After careful consideration, I decided to go Karaoke. Why spend countless hours of arranging a song, changing instruments, building verses and bridges, ebbs and flows - making your own masterpiece that the crowd loves (I know). I get (sure many others too) many compliments on my 'arrangements'. I can also make people laugh and cry. Isn't that what it's about?

To take a file and sing to it???? Hey the last 3 acts sang to the same 'My Way' midi. That's music?

Sorry for being so brash, but boy, the purists here get me going.
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#489771 - 02/20/20 01:09 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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What about the musicians that created those tracks don't they get credit also?

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#489778 - 02/20/20 01:25 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
What about the musicians that created those tracks don't they get credit also?


Absolutely! I give those creators credit all the time. I tell my audience about the board styles and how I work from these. I am grateful for the talent these musicians have and would be hard pressed to start sequencing (although I can) from scratch. Years of organ training made the arranger the 'perfect' fit.

In fact, isn't playing the organ the same as playing an arranger? RH embellishments (thx Bernie), LH chords, maybe a drum beat too? Hey, I like pedals, but sure don't want to drag around those big tines that cut the hell out you smile

But reading some remarks on today's threads about this subject made me feel like Mike Bloomberg did last night!
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#489784 - 02/20/20 01:52 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
[quote=Dnj]
But reading some remarks on today's threads about this subject made me feel like Mike Bloomberg did last night!


Yeah, but 60 Billion has got to soften the blow a little smile smile. I get as much flak on this forum and I'm practically broke smile.

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#489795 - 02/20/20 02:08 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By zuki
[quote=Dnj]
this subject made me feel like Mike Bloomberg did last night!



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#489809 - 02/20/20 03:24 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles
Originally Posted By zuki
[quote=Dnj]
But reading some remarks on today's threads about this subject made me feel like Mike Bloomberg did last night!


Yeah, but 60 Billion has got to soften the blow a little smile smile. I get as much flak on this forum and I'm practically broke smile.

chas


LOL. Wouldn't that be nice!!! The only that would've made him less respected would've been to have an arranger on that podium smile Sorry, couldn't resist....all is good
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#489813 - 02/20/20 03:31 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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smile smile You're a good sport, Zuki; a good guy too, according to Capt. Russ (and that's good enough for me).

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#489816 - 02/20/20 03:34 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By cgiles

Yeah, but 60 Billion has got to soften the blow a little smile smile. I get as much flak on this forum and I'm practically broke smile.
chas


Now that's funny, chas ... laugh2
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#489817 - 02/20/20 03:43 PM Re: Are We Spoilt For Choice? [Re: MusicalMemories]
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Ultimate compliment from you and the Captain. Sometimes I feel like such a jerk, nice to hear good things smile
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