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#454992 - 07/20/18 05:56 AM
The old Stereo vs. Mono topic ... revisited ...
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Registered: 09/24/02
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Loc: Raleigh, NC
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I did a gig last night, a very small one - ~20-22 people or so, in a room not much bigger than my living room. I'd say the room was ~20' x 30' or so. Low ceiling.
I thought I could get by with just 1 Bose S1, which I set up using the "L+R" output (mono) as Yamaha suggests. The one S1 did fine as far as volume, amount of bass, clarity overall, etc., for this room. However, many sounds seemed "flat" (not musically flat, but tonally flat) ... things like the piano (C7 and CTX), the strings, vibes, etc. Sometimes my Left sound, which I had set at a decent volume for playing countermelodies etc., didn't seem to "cut through" as I'm used to. The pianos in particular just didn't sound that great to me. Organs with "Leslie" sounded "OK" but not as I'm used to.
I'm going to play the exact same place next week; will try it with two S1's evenly spread out in the room. Maybe the audience won't notice it much - but it'll be interesting if it's a big difference, or a small difference, for me as the player.
I didn't "feel" as good about the sound, and it sort of was less "inspiring" than I'm used to (I usually go Stereo, either with 2 Bose S1s, or my Lucas Nano 600 in stereo setup, two FBT Maxx40a's) ... so even if it's mostly for me, if I do indeed hear a noticeable difference, I'll probably stick with Stereo even for smaller gigs. It's only an extra minute or two to set up a 2nd speaker ...
Thoughts? Jim
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#455033 - 07/20/18 02:29 PM
Re: The old Stereo vs. Mono topic ... revisited ...
[Re: jimlaing]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Jim, many years ago I posted a Yamaha Piano voice that I created using the PSR-3000. It took me about a week to get what I wanted to hear, but nevertheless, it really worked well and has been downloaded thousands of times. If I recall, I used one of the Gm Piano voices, then went to work using the effects.
I'll be more than happy to post the link if anyone wishes to download it.
Gary
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#455040 - 07/20/18 07:17 PM
Re: The old Stereo vs. Mono topic ... revisited ...
[Re: jimlaing]
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Donny, the only ones that, obviously, need changing are the stereo sampled voices, which mainly are pianos. Changing them makes a world of difference. I don't know of any stereo styles or multi-pads, but I could be wrong because I pretty much ignore some of the new styles in the dance area of the keyboard. Gary
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#455252 - 07/26/18 11:21 AM
Re: The old Stereo vs. Mono topic ... revisited ...
[Re: jimlaing]
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Loc: Raleigh, NC
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Quick report - I did another job at the same place, same setup, as mentioned in this note as I created it - except I used 2 Bose S1's instead of 1. No surprise: sounded MUCH better ... I know that stereo will sound better than mono, and I almost always go stereo - but I didn't know it would make that much difference in clarity, fullness, "feel-good-about-playing" etc.!
2 Bose S1's did fantastic for this and other smaller gigs I have done ... setup is so quick. For a couple of places I play regularly, I just put them on the floor, a bit behind, angled up (using the built-in slight angle-up position), seem to do well and got good feedback on the overall sound. I can hear them as "monitors" just fine, and reports are that they get good sound to the audience. I have not yet had to re-charge the battery, and I've done I think 5 gigs with them (1 hour each).
Jim
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#455254 - 07/26/18 12:34 PM
Re: The old Stereo vs. Mono topic ... revisited ...
[Re: jimlaing]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Quick report - I did another job at the same place, same setup, as mentioned in this note as I created it - except I used 2 Bose S1's instead of 1. No surprise: sounded MUCH better ... I know that stereo will sound better than mono, and I almost always go stereo - but I didn't know it would make that much difference in clarity, fullness, "feel-good-about-playing" etc.!
2 Bose S1's did fantastic for this and other smaller gigs I have done ... setup is so quick. For a couple of places I play regularly, I just put them on the floor, a bit behind, angled up (using the built-in slight angle-up position), seem to do well and got good feedback on the overall sound. I can hear them as "monitors" just fine, and reports are that they get good sound to the audience. I have not yet had to re-charge the battery, and I've done I think 5 gigs with them (1 hour each).
Jim Jim...good news no surprise there Stereo is the way to go. good luck
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