WOW, if you don't watch...is it really an arranger...
Of course....Superb sounds...but it shows the capability of the instrument in the right hands.....I need to practice a LOT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_SrBYGgPS4&list=RDRhNGSBVZhIg

It is perfect, I would say, perfectionism.
I'm myself not a fan of doing my homework to that extent. Surely, I have to pay my price. Still, I don't see much point in an arranger if you use dozens of registrations during one song. There are sequencers for that kind of work and you can have coffee between every registration.

The benefit which arranger gives to me is an opportunity to draw the whole picture in real time, making a feedback loop with your emotions.

There are certain stereotypes about arranger players, and any stereotype is always built on both truth and ignorance. They make people see an arranger keyboard as something "geeky".

An arranger player does seem geeky because his is not a team player, he's rather isolated, which can be confused with being an outcast.

But it's the world we are living in right now, the world of isolation. I see potential to change the image of an arranger player as well as I see that it will not happen.

There are too many demos of keyboards are being produced so far without being serious about the keyboard. It's more like.. being at school.. With no intention (or support) to go far enough.

Well said

You guys missed the point...the SOUND is what I'm talking about....remember in this case he is playing a production song...not entertaining at a party or home or things like that, AND there is no singer to deal with.

Arrangers can also be played as an Orchestra would play the piece...and that's what this is. The sounds to me are really very realistic and if you play this for someone without having tham watch it...I bet they think it's done by a whole Orchestra.

Lee, I didn't miss the point. That sound was absolutely awesome to say the very least. Not only is he a very talented player, but he seems to be an incredible composer as well.

Outstanding,

Gary

Gary, after hearing that and a bunch of other stuff I have listened to lately...I think a used T5 would be fine here...maybe even a PSR-s970, they sound great too. What do you think on the comparison?

John Beesly is not only a performer ..

He also creates many many nice performance packs for Yamaha imstruments under his brand.. Tyros Magic.
Also he is a programmer, as he made the software V-console that under windows 10 turns your Tyros and soon Genos into a 2 manual organ. Check out his website.


http://www.tyrosmagic.com/v-console-details

During the past two weeks, I have heard so many performers using a variety of arranger keyboards producing incredible music on another forum that I sincerely believe it is the creativity of the player that counts most - not the keyboard. However, the new sounds coming from the Genos are absolutely incredible. Anyone that denies this, IMO, is not really making an unbiased assessment of what they hear.

All the best,

Gary

Noboddy is denieing this, atleast not in this topic.

If you look at most of the top arranger players (Including John Beasley) they have one thing in common, in that they all started out playing organ and/or synthesisers so they can arrange and play the tunes without any automatic backing, thus it makes it easy for them to set up arranger backing (Or design styles) as they know how to make it sound good. (Remember the arranger came from the easy play features of organs which were designed to make anybody sound great without the wait) You will also find that many of these players when they are not demonstrating for a manufacture add in a pedalboard and a lower keyboard for more flexibility. (It also makes it easier to play on the fly and allow them to play most tunes when people ask, as they don’t have to look for a style as they play it themselves with just drums, and use instruments that suit at the time)
As always, it’s the player that makes the sound, not the instrument, which unfortunately is not as it was, as when organs were around (Arrangers where just toys at that time) you could tell who was playing by just hearing their playing style, but these days with arrangers, you just hear the arranger keyboard manufacture. (If you want to stand out, learn to play everything yourself (No backing except drums) and when you then go back to using an arranger the magic will occur)

Bill

I am sure what you say is true, if not that easily done.

The guy is great.

As for the video. There’s one peculiarity. The music is rather dynamic, and there’s a lot of cymbal used. It works as a distraction from the voices themselves. Listening in earphones, you may feel that strings hurt a little bit. Well, I’m not a fan of VST’s either, because they don’t let you to play “the whole” picture, and I believe that if you don’t play the “whole picture”, then you will never see it as it is. Of course, there’re ways to work step-by-step, but I tend to lose the picture completely when I’m doing that. In general, this sort of music is for an actual orchestra...

What I want to stress, that Tyros and other keyboards help you to “draw a picture” very well, but it’s still rather a picture than a product. We like to say things such as “it’s all about the skills”, however, you may just completely go nuts trying to produce the same level as the one which was produced using different kind of recourses and you still won’t succeed.

This “Tyros 5 - Pirates Of The Caribbean - John Beesley” video is great, and I appreciate the chance to watch it. Nevertheless, it’s not quite what you put on CD’s (let’s pretend they exist), it’s not what you play on stage; and it’s not how you “enjoy your Tyros” (well, there’s no standard for that either). Perhaps, it’s something different.

Agree.