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#41299 - 12/14/06 08:08 PM Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Hi every one,

Regarding the tempo wheel, where the tempo speed can be adjusted.

I experience that I turn the wheel and there are sections that it does not move the tempo speed.

Are there any adjustments?

Thanks for helping me!

Doron
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#41300 - 12/15/06 12:34 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hello Doron,

I sometimes have this problem with one of my KN7000 keyboards. It is usually only temporary but to be on the safe side, I set the correct tempo to the song, in a panel memory - say A1 then I go to page 2 of the save facility and switch 'OFF' THE TEMPO By doing this you will ensure that your particular song (or maybe all 8 panel memories if they are also setup) will always have that tempo setting and whatever else you do or load will not alter that.

Hope this helps.

Audrey

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#41301 - 12/15/06 08:41 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Thanks for the prompt reply! I got it.

By saying "It is usually only temporary"
What does it mean?

Will the smallest turning move (up or down) say 1 degree will alter the tempo in 1 up or down respectively?

Many thanks for your time,
Doron
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#41302 - 12/16/06 03:30 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hi Doron,

Temporary means just that. It doesn't always do it. When it does, I can usually get out of it by either initialising the keyboard or switching off and then on again.

I have also taken note of when this happens and it is usually after I have been using another person's setup where they had used the sequencer or, I had used an old preloaded floppy where the sequencer had also been used. Also some midi files seem to have the same affect on the tempo wheel. Both my keyboards are v.3 and I know from this Forum that there are later versions to be had. Later versions of course, are produced to deal with problems so maybe this particular problem has been dealt with in a later version. You could try asking Technics Player, he is an expert on the keyboard's technology and may well know the answer.

Good luck and a Happy Christmas to You and Yours.

Audrey


[This message has been edited by Audrey Turner (edited 12-16-2006).]

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#41303 - 12/18/06 02:20 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Thanks Audrey,

I am glad to hear that it may not be a mechanical issue.

I have two questions:

1. How do you initialize the Kn7000?

2. Does latest version S/W handles the Tempo wheel sensitivity?

Sincerely,
Doron Peisic
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#41304 - 12/19/06 05:09 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Joe Baron Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 330
Loc: England
Regarding the tempo wheel,
Hi Doron.
I had this problem on my KN2000 and it was very bad. it worked when it wanted to.
Embarrassing when gigging.
I levered the wheel off it comes off quite easy.
I then put a little WD40 onto the spindle enough to run down the spindle and refresh the contacts and it has worked fine ever since.It's over three years since I did it.
Regards.
Joe

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#41305 - 12/19/06 10:28 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Thanks Joe,

I initialized the KN7000 with the factory setting, according to Audrey guides.

It works better, however when circling it fast it skips the temp recording.

Is it normal?

Joe, How did you remove the tempo wheel? That is very interesting.

I will be happy remove the temp wheel and to put WD 40.

Regarding the KN 7000 version, I have 1.3

Will new version address the tempo wheel sensitivity?

Sincerely,
Doron
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#41306 - 12/19/06 11:34 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Joe Baron Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 330
Loc: England
Joe, How did you remove the tempo wheel? That is very interesting.

Hi Doron
I just tried it on my KN7000 in case it was different to the KN2000, It's not! I used a penknife it came out very easy. Because of the angle of the spindle you had better put the KN7000 on a bed and prop it up with pillows or other thing just to give a good downward path for the WD 40 to penetrate.
Regarding the version of your software, please look at the posts at.
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum25/HTML/004145.html
These are posts by people who know far more than me about such matters.
Regards.
Joe



[This message has been edited by Joe Baron (edited 12-19-2006).]

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#41307 - 12/19/06 12:24 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Wow. I am very excited to do it. Many thanks for the prompt reply and for the fact to share so powerfull information.

I will let you all know how it goes!!!


Sincerely,
Doron
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#41308 - 12/21/06 08:29 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Wow, it is so easy to remove the tempo wheel and to put the Spray.

I use electronic contact spay that also contains lubrication as well as assists for better electronics contact. It did help. I am so happy about it!

Thanks every one for helping me.

Sincerely,
Doron
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#41309 - 12/21/06 01:22 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Joe Baron Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 330
Loc: England
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dpeisic:
[B]Wow, it is so easy to remove the tempo wheel and put on spray.
Hi Doron.
In a few days time do it again. it should cure the fault. WD 40 is the best contacts improver I know.
Regards.
Joe

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#41310 - 12/21/06 03:09 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
I will definitely spay the temp wheel pivot again, I will use WD40

Joe, Do you keep the kn7000 in an angle for couple hours before putting in back on the stand?

Many thanks,
Doron
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#41311 - 12/22/06 12:57 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Joe Baron Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 330
Loc: England
Joe, Do you keep the kn7000 in an angle for couple hours before putting in back on the stand?
Yes Doron!
That is good thinking it gives the WD 40 more time to reach the contacts.
Regards.
Joe

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#41312 - 12/23/06 05:59 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
dpeisic Offline
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Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 165
Loc: San Deigo, Ca, USA
Thanks every one for the advise.

After allowing the spray to settle, my kn7000 tempo wheel is very responsive now

Many thanks for helping me!
Doron
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#41313 - 12/23/06 10:46 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000
Joe Baron Offline
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Registered: 02/01/04
Posts: 330
Loc: England
After allowing the spray to settle, my kn7000 tempo wheel is very responsive now
Many thanks for helping me!

You are welcome Doron.
Kind regards.
Joe

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#501007 - 10/11/20 03:40 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000 [Re: dpeisic]
The Saint Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 690
Loc: Sydney Australia
Well !! I really should have gone to The Oracle first.
Thanks Roger.
(I have recently done just that with a couple of radio volume controllers).
All I need now is to remove the wheet, WHOOPEE !!

Ray
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#501010 - 10/11/20 05:44 PM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000 [Re: dpeisic]
The Saint Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 690
Loc: Sydney Australia
PROGRESS REPORT
Have removed the cap (simple), now waiting for assistance to level the panel before applying magic elixer !!

Ray (the mechanic)
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#501044 - 10/13/20 02:07 AM Re: Tempo Wheel - KN 7000 [Re: dpeisic]
RMepstead Offline
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Well done Ray...
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