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#387975 - 04/16/14 08:35 AM line arrar
zuki Offline
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No Matter How Good A Piano, It Alway Sounds Pitiful ThroughPowered 2 Way Monitors. Do The New 3 Way Line Array Make It Sound Like HeadphonEs Bygiving It More Full Spectrum?
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#387977 - 04/16/14 09:05 AM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
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Headphones will give you a false sense of sound versus an open air speaker system......plus you have to tink of what that piano will sound like IN A MIX also...Your gonna have to go to the store and bring your KB & play thru different systems to get your answer at performance volumes,...do not listen to anyone here..
only your own ears will give you what you need
sound-wise..hopefully your talking Line Array system in stereo also. Good Luck.

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#387980 - 04/16/14 09:57 AM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
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But I Want That Headphone Sound, Live -Possible?
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#387995 - 04/16/14 03:00 PM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
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It's possible Jim. However, I've never found a default, onboard piano voice, regardless of the keyboard brand, that had the depth and quality I wanted. That's why I spent several days creating a special, mono piano voice using my old PSR-3000. That voice is being used all over the world now, and not just by PSR users, but a lot of Tyros guys are using it as well. Unfortunately, it will only work with Yamaha arranger keyboards. Now, it is a MONO voice, therefore, the problems associated with non-stereo systems, such as the Bose L1 series, are no longer a problem. Some guys tell me it sounds more like a Steinway than a Yamaha grand piano. I think it's kinda a mix of the two.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#387997 - 04/16/14 03:07 PM Re: line arrar [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
It's possible Jim. However, I've never found a default, onboard piano voice, regardless of the keyboard brand, that had the depth and quality I wanted. That's why I spent several days creating a special, mono piano voice using my old PSR-3000. That voice is being used all over the world now, and not just by PSR users, but a lot of Tyros guys are using it as well. Unfortunately, it will only work with Yamaha arranger keyboards. Now, it is a MONO voice, therefore, the problems associated with non-stereo systems, such as the Bose L1 series, are no longer a problem. Some guys tell me it sounds more like a Steinway than a Yamaha grand piano. I think it's kinda a mix of the two.

Cheers,

Gary cool


Gary if possible can you post an A/B of the original 3k piano vs the new Mono one. Would love to hear the comparison. headphone piano

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#387999 - 04/16/14 03:21 PM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
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Donny, the rig is still in the van. However, here's a link to the voice, and you can A/B it on your keyboard. Grand Piano

Gary
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#388000 - 04/16/14 03:39 PM Re: line arrar [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Donny, the rig is still in the van. However, here's a link to the voice, and you can A/B it on your keyboard. Grand Piano

Gary


Why thank you sir...I'll give it a shot......although I always play in stereo headphone cool2

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#388001 - 04/16/14 03:57 PM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
travlin'easy Offline
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Donny, it really doesn't make a difference whether you play in stereo or not - it's a mono voice so it comes out both sides equally.

Gary cool
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#388002 - 04/16/14 04:19 PM Re: line arrar [Re: travlin'easy]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Donny, it really doesn't make a difference whether you play in stereo or not - it's a mono voice so it comes out both sides equally.

Gary cool


I'll probably never use it but I always like to try new things....thanx for sharing.

Click on AUDIO/VIDEO Concert Grand Piano demo...

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-i...-61/?mode=model


I would the T5 sounds better then anything on the market today in an arranger KB. headphone


Edited by Dnj (04/16/14 04:29 PM)

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#388007 - 04/16/14 06:47 PM Re: line arrar [Re: zuki]
zuki Offline
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I just fired up the Nanos again. I was amazed how good they sound - wow! I have eq'd all my gig (concert, to you Donny :)) songs by way of the Yamaha HS7s. They turned out pretty close on the Nano and the floor bass (sub) really makes it fill out.

Question on you Nano gig users (past and present): How big a group will these handle before falling short, power/coverage wise? It appears many here have given them up for live play. I was thinking of moving to the Stagepas series.

I really rather have a crystal clean PA and willing to give up my HS7s in partial payment.
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