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#35985 - 08/14/10 09:25 AM Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Joe0710 Offline
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Tried a little bit on the new OS 4.1B with the User live guitars. Has someone tried to load up to 4 user live guitars into the RAM and it worked? If I try to do this it does not really work. Following is happening:
Sometimes it loads the same guitar twice, when I load the next guitar, it is possible that it also will be loaded twice. Then, when I try to load the 3rd guitar, the first 2 guitars will be deleted and so on. It is not always the same behavior. Has somebody the same experience or is there something to consider?

I think it is a bug - Bugfix for 4.1C.

Joe

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#35986 - 08/14/10 10:40 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Joe0710:
Tried a little bit on the new OS 4.1B with the User live guitars. Has someone tried to load up to 4 user live guitars into the RAM and it worked? If I try to do this it does not really work. Following is happening:
Sometimes it loads the same guitar twice, when I load the next guitar, it is possible that it also will be loaded twice. Then, when I try to load the 3rd guitar, the first 2 guitars will be deleted and so on. It is not always the same behavior. Has somebody the same experience or is there something to consider?

I think it is a bug - Bugfix for 4.1C.

Joe


Joe,
exsacly the same problem exsist in my Audya.Allso that problem haW previos OS 4.1.A
Alllso new OS haw meny ather bugs....Read ather topic on forum...

[This message has been edited by Dusan (edited 08-14-2010).]

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#35987 - 08/14/10 10:28 PM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
Quote:
Originally posted by Joe0710:
Tried a little bit on the new OS 4.1B with the User live guitars. Has someone tried to load up to 4 user live guitars into the RAM and it worked? If I try to do this it does not really work. Following is happening:
Sometimes it loads the same guitar twice, when I load the next guitar, it is possible that it also will be loaded twice. Then, when I try to load the 3rd guitar, the first 2 guitars will be deleted and so on. It is not always the same behavior. Has somebody the same experience or is there something to consider?

I think it is a bug - Bugfix for 4.1C.

Joe


No please not already!!!

I am just loading my stick as I type and the lights in the house have of all gone dim, there's is also a smell of burning rubber, can anyone help, it's says don't turn it off.

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 08-14-2010).]
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#35988 - 08/15/10 04:18 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
No please not already!!!

I am just loading my stick as I type and the lights in the house have of all gone dim, there's is also a smell of burning rubber, can anyone help, it's says don't turn it off.

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 08-14-2010).]


Yes Tony,trouble coming out again and again.Please send a little report haw your Audya behaviour after update...
I am shure new OS 4.1B haw many new bugs.

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#35989 - 08/15/10 08:39 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Joe0710 Offline
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Registered: 01/27/10
Posts: 160
Loc: South Germany
Buggy Pattern Editor??

Tried following:
I have a SD1 style and I just want to do simple thing - I want to copy the content of e.g Chord5 to Chord4 as I want to have also live guitars in this style. What have I tried so far:

I made a copy of this style and have both of them in the User style section. I select one style as the source style and one as the target style. Then I tried to copy the track. Some of the tracks can be copied, others ends with a generic copy error. Is there anybody who can help, or is this another bug?

Meanwhile tried some other topics on the style editor - sorry KETRON, but the style editor is NOT really usable. If I try similar things with my old XD3 everything works fine.

Joe


[This message has been edited by Joe0710 (edited 08-15-2010).]

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#35990 - 08/15/10 09:00 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
This is not the same KB, some of the new sounds are 100% better. The styles are brilliant. Been fitting a new Kitchen today, Doris will go mad if I start playing the Audya and there's no water.

Tony
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#35991 - 08/15/10 11:22 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
This is not the same KB, some of the new sounds are 100% better. The styles are brilliant. Been fitting a new Kitchen today, Doris will go mad if I start playing the Audya and there's no water.

Tony


Tony,who is Doris....?

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#35992 - 08/15/10 12:07 PM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Tony Hughes Offline
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Posts: 3944
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
Tony,who is Doris....?


A name I use for my wife when she can't hear me.
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#35993 - 08/15/10 12:31 PM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
A name I use for my wife when she can't hear me.


Tony,for that cinde of case I call her Darinka...and she call me:come out of your music room just once a day....you old fool!

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#35994 - 08/17/10 12:02 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
My list of bugs (or what ever we kall this)
-in piano mode if you playing harder you can activated drums in aranger section
-voicetron wont work ewerytime when you nead
-voice in Low.2 is set to 20 in moust cases but is louder then Bass who is set to 40
-Kayboard cant memorise Solo voice muting in midi file
-Kayboard cant comunicate with Computer.You cant see or transfer files from PC
-To much Effect(Reverb) on some Live drums
-if you call Midi file from mine scren on right site you can see list of your midis.After end of first Midi playing that list is desapire and you can see only blank right site of scren
-cant coppy style parts

OS 4-1A was be much betther den new one and I really dont know what guys in Ketron thing and do.....What I can do with new briliant Sound and Styles if my horse dont wont to carry me?

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#35995 - 08/17/10 12:11 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
My list of bugs (or what ever we kall this)
-in piano mode if you playing harder you can activated drums in aranger section
-voicetron wont work ewerytime when you nead
-voice in Low.2 is set to 20 in moust cases but is louder then Bass who is set to 40
-Kayboard cant memorise Solo voice muting in midi file
-Kayboard cant comunicate with Computer.You cant see or transfer files from PC
-To much Effect(Reverb) on some Live drums
-if you call Midi file from mine scren on right site you can see list of your midis.After end of first Midi playing that list is desapire and you can see only blank right site of scren
-cant coppy style parts

OS 4-1A was be much betther den new one and I really dont know what guys in Ketron thing and do.....What I can do with new briliant Sound and Styles if my horse dont wont to carry me?


And anather big question:
Haw we can transfer anather and anather OS updates if kayboard dont want to coumunicate with PC.Maby we must buy more USB sticks from Ketron.Maby Ketron politics going in diferent way.They dont make Kayboards enymore.They mey want to reproducs USB sticks....

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#35996 - 08/17/10 02:02 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
My list of bugs (or what ever we kall this)
-in piano mode if you playing harder you can activated drums in aranger section
-voicetron wont work ewerytime when you nead
-voice in Low.2 is set to 20 in moust cases but is louder then Bass who is set to 40
-Kayboard cant memorise Solo voice muting in midi file
-Kayboard cant comunicate with Computer.You cant see or transfer files from PC
-To much Effect(Reverb) on some Live drums
-if you call Midi file from mine scren on right site you can see list of your midis.After end of first Midi playing that list is desapire and you can see only blank right site of scren
-cant coppy style parts

OS 4-1A was be much betther den new one and I really dont know what guys in Ketron thing and do.....What I can do with new briliant Sound and Styles if my horse dont wont to carry me?


Dusan,there is no bug from your bug list in my audya..must be somethings wrong in your audya...you may reinstall upgrade from usb pen.maybe this can help...for pc connection check your usb ports in your pc and usb cable

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#35997 - 08/17/10 02:49 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by necdetdoni:
Dusan,there is no bug from your bug list in my audya..must be somethings wrong in your audya...you may reinstall upgrade from usb pen.maybe this can help...for pc connection check your usb ports in your pc and usb cable


Its wery strange cos I can play Midis from Sonar or ather player from PC thru Audya,but cant see HD on Audya.When I turn on my kayboard and PC allredy runing I can hear haw Audya conect to PC.

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#35998 - 08/17/10 03:01 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
Its wery strange cos I can play Midis from Sonar or ather player from PC thru Audya,but cant see HD on Audya.When I turn on my kayboard and PC allredy runing I can hear haw Audya conect to PC.


hey man, dont forget to "turn off" usb midi out from utlity menu in audya.if dont you cant see hd in pc

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#35999 - 08/17/10 03:05 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by necdetdoni:
hey man, dont forget to "turn off" usb midi out from utlity menu in audya.if dont you cant see hd in pc


I try so like you say,but no changes.Usualy in provius OS 4.1A audya goes to USB mode.Naw after upgrade nothing hapened.
Haw I can reinstal my Audya?

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#36000 - 08/17/10 03:07 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
from usb pen.some procedure...

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#36001 - 08/17/10 03:13 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by necdetdoni:
from usb pen.some procedure...


Prabebly I must first delite 4.1B file from Audya HD...?I am not shure about.I want only reinstal OS,not full upgrade.

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#36002 - 08/17/10 03:21 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
Prabebly I must first delite 4.1B file from Audya HD...?I am not shure about.I want only reinstal OS,not full upgrade.


i am not shure too..ask AJ.he know best.it was just my idea..Dusan did you get my mail and files.you didnt reply

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#36003 - 08/17/10 03:28 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Sorry but I dont recive enything except earlier post.....?

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#36004 - 08/17/10 04:30 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
Sorry but I dont recive enything except earlier post.....?


really.. midnight i sent a mail with 2 files..now i will send again check you mail..

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#36005 - 08/17/10 04:36 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by necdetdoni:
really.. midnight i sent a mail with 2 files..now i will send again check you mail..


Sorry again nathig hapened....
My mail:elektako@siol.net

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#36006 - 08/17/10 06:38 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
Quote:
Originally posted by Dusan:
Sorry again nathig hapened....
My mail:elektako@siol.net


sent it again

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#36007 - 08/17/10 12:27 PM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
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Dusan,

A lot of what you mention below are 'user error' and not bugs. Here are some answers for you ...

-in piano mode if you playing harder you can activated drums in aranger section
>>>AJ: This is because in STYLE MODE your AFTER FILL (F7) is on. AFTER FILL means you activate the fill in by pressing harder on the keys, regardless of Piano mode on or off. Turn this feature off and save in Custum set up if you do not want to repeat this each time your machine is turned on.

- Voicetron wont work ewerytime when you nead
>>>AJ: Depends on setting (if using REGISTRATIONS - it needs to be on before you save the REGISTER). As of OS 3.0, new edit access to voicetron was implimented - Press and hold down VOCALIZER for 2 seconds to access vocalizer settings. Select (using F1-F10) vocal settin you want. Press EDIT to assign vocalizer response to left or right hand or full piano - then SAVE vocal setting.

-voice in Low.2 is set to 20 in moust cases but is louder then Bass who is set to 40
>>>AJ:- Depends on the voice you are using. Not all voices have the same attack level and this could be true. Bass is usually warmer than say Piano!

-Kayboard cant memorise Solo voice muting in midi file
>>>AJ: This is not a bugg. Mutting Solo voices is considered a LIVE action, one that is carried out as you play the midifile. If you want to do away with the voice completely, bring down it's cooresponding volume to "0" and save as a new Midifile or overwrite the old one if you want this change to be permanent.

-Kayboard cant comunicate with Computer.You cant see or transfer files from PC
>>>AJ: Go to MENU - MIDI - UTILITY and make sure USB MIDI (F6) is OFF. The USB port on the back of the keyboard can be used EITHER for data transfer (off) or midi communication (on) [in place of the MIDI in/out jacks], but NOT for both at the same time!

-To much Effect(Reverb) on some Live drums
>>>AJ: You can remove/reduce the effects on DRUMS by going into STYLE VIEW - LIVE DRUMS (F1) and pressing EFFECTS (U2) and adjust or eliminate all together as the original audio drums are recorded without effects.

-if you call Midi file from mine scren on right site you can see list of your midis.After end of first Midi playing that list is desapire and you can see only blank right site of scren
>>>AJ: Make sure LYRICS (F10) has not been pressed. If you press this, the right side goes black in preparation to disply the lyrics (if available) of the midifile.

-cant coppy style parts
>>>AJ: Download lates OS 4.1b or that found in the USB stick with the new Sounds as this future is available in these!

RE-INSTALLING SOFTWARE:
You must go into your AUDYA's Hard Drive and delete the Audya401.mem (or any *.mem) file found in the root directory. Then copy the *.mem file from your USB key into the AUDYA's hard drive (root directory) to replace that which you just removed. Power off your AUDYA and press and hold down F10 and UNPLUGGED as you turn it on, and do not release these buttons until you see the AUDYA white screen with update status! During update, make sure you do not power off the keyboard. AUDYA will reset automatically once update is completed!

Hope this helps you and others who might have been experierencing similar issues!

Thanks,

AJ


[This message has been edited by Ketron_AJ (edited 08-17-2010).]
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#36008 - 08/18/10 12:48 AM Re: Feedback on OS 4.1B / Buglist for next OS / Requests for next OS
Dusan Offline
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 559
Loc: Slovenija
Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Dusan,

A lot of what you mention below are 'user error' and not bugs. Here are some answers for you ...

-in piano mode if you playing harder you can activated drums in aranger section
>>>Dusan:yes that is my mistake.

- Voicetron wont work ewerytime when you nead
>>>Dusan:voicetron start to work with no problem with Registration or withaut Registration,but after about half auer stop to work and then coming out again.Cant imagine haw to set voicetron to left or right or full renge of kayboard.Cant fined a solution to do so.

-voice in Low.2 is set to 20 in moust cases but is louder then Bass who is set to 40
>>>Dusan:with this coment I would like to say come critics cos some styles (moust of them is in Balad section)is not good balanced or Mix.

-Kayboard cant memorise Solo voice muting in midi file
>>>Dusan:I know that is Live function,but thej dont work properly.When I edit my midis kayboard give as a solution to Mute solo voice and after select that solo we can memorise that chanal.Allso we can transpose and ather setings.When we play that file Muting function wont work enimore.You can pres muting to on or off,no responce.Solo is stell there.

-Kayboard cant comunicate with Computer.You cant see or transfer files from PC
>>>Dusan:That is the general problem.I know exsactly haw to nawigate to USB.If I try to svich USB to off posicion kayboard dont go to USB mode.Allso can see caracters "Off" in short time.I only can see caracters what they look like "--".(two shord lines)Its strange cos I can play midis thru Sonar bat cant svich to se HD in Audya.Allso Kayboard slow dawn when I haw plug in USB stick and USB cable to PC in the same time.Koncecvence for that is we cant surch to C or D disc.Svicing betven folders is wery slow or kayboar4d dont want to show D disc(USB stick)
Wery strange.

-To much Effect(Reverb) on some Live drums
>>>Dusan:I am still saying that.No good mix.

-if you call Midi file from mine scren on right site you can see list of your midis.After end of first Midi playing that list is desapire and you can see only blank right site of scren
>>>Dusan:kayboard stell dont want to show list of midis when first midi stop to play automaticaly.Kayboard show only blank right site of scren.

-cant coppy style parts
>>>AJ: Download lates OS 4.1b or that found in the USB stick with the new Sounds as this future is available in these!

RE-INSTALLING SOFTWARE:
You must go into your AUDYA's Hard Drive and delete the Audya401.mem (or any *.mem) file found in the root directory. Then copy the *.mem file from your USB key into the AUDYA's hard drive (root directory) to replace that which you just removed. Power off your AUDYA and press and hold down F10 and UNPLUGGED as you turn it on, and do not release these buttons until you see the AUDYA white screen with update status! During update, make sure you do not power off the keyboard. AUDYA will reset automatically once update is completed!

Hope this helps you and others who might have been experierencing similar issues!

Thanks,

AJ


[This message has been edited by Ketron_AJ (edited 08-17-2010).]


AJ,
I am happy cos you respond on my post (cos I am engry on my Kayboard and engry on Ketron)cos you ar only competent person who can give as some ansver on questions.No one dont respond in Ketron in that is wery bad.
Never in my life I cant see behavior like Ketron show to his costumers.No ansvers,no suport,no practikal guide and athers usulay things.....
I dont know on the end what I can say more.If Ketron dont solve problems with OS in short time I would send back my Audya and purchase
new kayboard.Prabebly Yamy Tyros4 no mether haw good or bad voices they haw.....When is anaf is anaf...
Thank you
Please read Quote

[This message has been edited by Dusan (edited 08-18-2010).]

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