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#346468 - 07/05/12 05:54 PM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Bill Lewis
Thanks for the replies and keep them coming. I actually do a lot of the songs you guys suggested and the more I think about it I'm just not accustomed to that sort of situation. I came up with ideas today and will reprogram some styles to throw in some steel drum sounds. Maybe change one or two songs to a reggae beat. Heard a guy down here on a dock with a massive PA system playing just one steel drum to backing tracks. I didn't think much of it but he was working and I was watching. Can't knock success.

Thanks again



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Don Its amazing and your right on with that. As I said I was watching and he was playing. Ha!
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#346470 - 07/05/12 05:58 PM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Fran Carango]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
Originally Posted By: Bill Lewis
DNJ
Both but I may just bring an Ipod along for breaks and leave the DJ system home. I want to scale down as much as possible

Bill

Ok Fran your on. As soon as I get it I'm going to be on the phone with you . Some of you guys get a new board and are gigging with it the next night I'm much slower getting comfortable. See you soon


I can see a BK5 in the near future....it will handle all your requirements...and 16 pounds to boot..
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#346475 - 07/06/12 05:36 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Fran Carango]
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Bill,
Melodies are important but in the type of job you mentioned I feel the beat (drums and bass) are what sells. More drums (a lot more) and a little more bass and the tunes you play now will do the job

John C.

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#346478 - 07/06/12 07:16 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: bruno123]
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John, a good point....I use a trick on my Roland (G70)...when I need to get things going..I use the "cover" feature....by selecting the "house" drum kit or "hiphop" kit with a synth bass...done with a touch on the screen....the style or sequence comes alive....and if I have a big sound system...the mastering tools have another great punch in the EQ and compression..

The point...bass and drums are the important "dance" ingredient...melody and vocals are not the driving force...at all...

PS: this does not work well in nursing homes... smile


Edited by Fran Carango (07/06/12 07:19 AM)
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#346479 - 07/06/12 07:24 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By: bruno123
Bill,
Melodies are important but in the type of job you mentioned I feel the beat (drums and bass) are what sells. More drums (a lot more) and a little more bass and the tunes you play now will do the job

John C.


Funny that you mention that John, as right now I'm gettinig ready to play a pool party and I'm tweaking my registration (bringing up the drums and bass) That's a cool feature on your G70 Fran. I wish my Tyros could do that smile
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#346480 - 07/06/12 07:44 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Good above until they start requesting songs from this century .....this is the jersey shore we're talking about here!


I had neglected to add that the 'Top 40' stuff - which I have not seen performed very well by a OMB using an arranger - could be added through the use of an iPOD/iPAD/Smart phone/ whatever ...
And Donny, I do believe all of the songs mentioned were from this CENTURY ... wink
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#346482 - 07/06/12 08:10 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By: Bill Lewis
Thanks for the replies and keep them coming. I actually do a lot of the songs you guys suggested and the more I think about it I'm just not accustomed to that sort of situation. I came up with ideas today and will reprogram some styles to throw in some steel drum sounds. Maybe change one or two songs to a reggae beat. Heard a guy down here on a dock with a massive PA system playing just one steel drum to backing tracks. I didn't think much of it but he was working and I was watching. Can't knock success.

Thanks again


We have an area in Providence, Rhode Island - Federal Hill - which has historically been known for its Italian heritage and fine restaurants ... The 'prime' location is "DePasquale Square" which features about 6 restaurants - 3 of which are under one ownership -
http://www.google.com/search?q=DePasqual...280&bih=828
This area has become a major summer venue for entertainers, featuring live music outdoors every night ... however, I have been there on several occasions and have yet to see even ONE person playing a musical instrument ... it is all done with backing tracks ... Last Saturday after dinner we passed by with some friends from out of town ... there was a duo, male and female in about their mid to late 50's, singing to tracks, the square was mobbed, and there were lots of people dancing on cobblestone ...Last night after I finished my gig - at a restaurant "on D'Hill" wink - I drove through the main street ... many of the restaurants have fronts that open to the sidewalk and still had 'streetside' tables set up ... I heard music coming from one as I passed and I could see a HUGE karaoke screen showing lyrics ... there was a great amount of activity for 11 PM on a Thursday night ...
WHATEVER WORKS!!! juggle rocker dance2
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#346486 - 07/06/12 08:28 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Tony no surprise there .....like I always said go with the changing tide and adapt.....or drown!!! Backing tracks vocals and dj'ing is the wave of the future embrace it....or sit home.

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#346487 - 07/06/12 08:34 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: montunoman]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Originally Posted By: montunoman
Originally Posted By: bruno123
Bill,
Melodies are important but in the type of job you mentioned I feel the beat (drums and bass) are what sells. More drums (a lot more) and a little more bass and the tunes you play now will do the job

John C.


Funny that you mention that John, as right now I'm gettinig ready to play a pool party and I'm tweaking my registration (bringing up the drums and bass) That's a cool feature on your G70 Fran. I wish my Tyros could do that smile


Paul, You can do something quite similar with your Tyros. It's a bit more involved than the process Fran was talking about, but believe me, it can be done, and you can save the changes to a registration that can be recalled and modified at any time.

Fran is right about the Nursing Homes, though. wink

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#346489 - 07/06/12 09:33 AM Re: Songs for Deckertainment ? [Re: Dnj]
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Donny, I always thought your approach was right on target for entertainers.

But, I can tell you that it is certainly possible to make a $quarter mil, plus annually in the music business with no DJ work, no arranger, no sequences, no tracks, no harmonizer, and sometimes, NO AUDIENCE...live audience, that is.

It's a "chicken hat" or not situation. I choose "NOT", but wish I had the entertainment skills to need a whole wardrobe of "chicken hats".

I don't (I'm a TERRIBLE entertainer), so I have adapted in different ways...different projects....different clients.

The takeaway, here, is it is possible to "survive and thrive" in the music/entertainment business.

You just have to figure out a way that get's the results you want, financially and personally.

I just got back from a trip overseas that, for two weeks, paid what most people would make in a year. I do 6 trips a year.

Yesterday, I spent 14 hours playing tracks for spots for a well known restaurant chain...they have been clients for over 30 years. With average residuals, that job will pay over $5,000. Next week, I'm doing a film score for a film I'm producing for a national dental organization. The score will bill out at $19,000.00 and the film will bill out at over $109,000.00. My share, after costs, will be $50,000.00.

I don't like writing scripts about oral health care (it IS, however, an important issue) or writing music about chicken strips.

Doing this, however, is part of the compromise. To a degree, I've "sold out". But that's better than starvation, and it keeps me in the "BIZ"!

Did I enjoy these two gigs? HELL NO, but the monthly jazz/B-3 night I do at a country club pays $500.00 for a trio, and I probably couldn't book more than 4 a month in this area if I tried. I LOVE THOSE GIGS!

Still, I'm not ready to give those jobs and the single guitar instrumental jobs up to operate DJ equipment (actually, my son runs a DJ operation we own and WE do quite well).

The majority of my "live" gigs consist of playing quiet enough not to interfere with dinner conversation...wouldn't want anyone to choke on that ham sandwich LOL.

Everyone needs to find a place that satisfies their needs and puts enough food on the table...gets them laid often enough...whatever.

Good luck to all finding your place in this fascinating, frustrating thing we call the music business.


Russ (stubborn ole dude) Lay

(Man, I'm old enough to have seen Steve Allen do his "chicken man"...LIVE...fabulous)!


Edited by captain Russ (07/06/12 09:52 AM)

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