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#34621 - 02/03/10 01:33 PM
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#34622 - 02/03/10 01:56 PM
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#34649 - 02/07/10 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
OS4 count down now at "1". AJ has one of those dodgy watches the ones you get when you go to Spain or Turkey on holiday, Rolex Perpetua should be £5500., but you can get one for £20.00, after a week the fingers fall off and the date goes slow. 1 on AJ watch could be one year, it might be never, it’s stopped and he does know it. What time is it now AJ? AJ would it not be simpler to just give us the release date, now there's a first, or are the numbers game tips for the lottery! Regards All you Audya Nuts, well all 3 of you! [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 02-07-2010).]
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#34661 - 02/09/10 09:30 PM
Re: OS4 will be out this Friday
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
There is very little use for the DVD restore set unless you seriously mess up your hard disk or have a HDD accident. It takes you to OS2.0 and you reload all OS updates after that, I think it has to be that way to make sure the Audya's hardware is in sync with the OS. I presume (but not certain) that part of the update involves some bios or flash memory alterations.
I keep a complete backup on my laptop (which goes everywhere with me) so don't need the restore DVD's. I think this is the best option, then if you do delete something by accident you can just copy the file across.
TWD
[This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 02-09-2010).] TWD, Thanks for that and the one on the other SZ site. I am in PC myself for a day job and started programming "C" and others when dos 1.25 was built. I don't have a problem with loading anything on, its others who bought Audya and now find they need to get a friend in to load updates. I know a few people who bought the KB who were not told the truth about updates and I was told that Audya was the best "KB IN THE WORLD EVER" the shape of things to come, I have a Korg PA2x and I am an engineer and Audya is not what it is made out to be and TWD if you have one you must agree it's not worth twice the cost of the PA2x. My gripe is waiting for an update that yet again will be the best thing since sliced bread, blow your socks off, these are the statements being made, but where is it, it should have been in the KB when I got it, then the original statement would have been true. Ketron have had 18 months and 3 upgrades and it's no better than any other KB, just a lot more money. If Audya had been a car it would have had wings and a propeller! Thanks TWD BTW TWD I have had another problem about a week back I was playing with some WAV and Loops and the LCD screen when blank, the KB still played, I tired everything to get the sceen back on and the only way was to reboot! There are still Software bugs in there that have not surfaced yet for you all. KB will in the end be controlled by windows it's a well tried and tested product, it has problems but when it trips up it can sort itself out. Window has been tested by millions and is about £80.00 to buy it will be a way forward one day. Its used to load your Audya OS4 on when it comes and you cannot do without it. Watch this and you will see what I mean all you need is a simple midi KB £300.00 one that going down the tip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4ycaFUUgI BTW on this one you need to love the Wurlitzer [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 02-09-2010).] [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 02-09-2010).]
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#34663 - 02/10/10 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Having a good knowledge of computers doesn't mean you don't make mistakes Tony and you missed the point completely of the UK forum post. Its very simple:
Are you 100% sure you loaded OS 2.0, Styles, 2.0c then 3.0 in that order? Yay or Nay?
TWD, People think my Audya still locks up, it doesn't and have have loaded all the updates on correctly, this is my second KB and the first one locked up for fun, update by the dealer several times, my first KB was then sold on to someone in Kent and he had to send it back to my dealer, OS3a was loaded on to that KB again and eventually it worked OK. I have a new problem that has happened a few times when the screen goes blank. My main gripe is what everybody should be complaining about, that is the AUDYA was not a finsished product, this is now known to all mankind, if you are happy with yours then OK but I have been told that OS4 will blow you away, if I am not paying for updates then that means it was not finished when I bought it, as it will be, I have had to wait until such time as Ketron add all the bits I have paid for, if that is not the case they I would be been charging for updates. Am I missing something or am I talk tosh! With regard to the software when I write a full backup it means a full back up right up to the last line of code written today, not updates on update in the correct order or your dead, that's playing with software and I know what there problem is doing this! Cheers Tony [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 02-10-2010).]
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#34664 - 02/10/10 01:10 PM
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I must have missed the post where you said your keyboard is no longer locking up. Thats fantastic news and I bet all our fellow synthzoners will be ecstatic to hear that!  Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
TWD, Am I missing something or am I talk tosh!
Cheers Tony I believe you 'mentally' need to seperate new features from bug fixes. Let me give you an example. If you work with computers you will know that the IBM T20 was regarded as one of the most reliable and well built laptops ever made, and IBM's online support system is the benchmark to which all other computer manufacturers aim for. They were rock solid PC's and I have customers that still run them everyday with XP SP3. Have a look at the list of Bios updates: 1.02 IYET36WW 1.03 IYET37WW 1.06 IYET42WW 1.07 IYET43WW 1.08 IYET45WW 1.09 IYET46WW 1.10 IYET49WW 1.11 IYET50WW 1.12 IYET52WW 1.13 IYET53WW 1.14 IYET54WW 1.16 IYET56WW 1.17 IYET57WW 1.18 IYET57WW 1.19 IYET58WW 1.20 IYET59WW 1.21 IYET60WW 1.22 IYET61WW Apart from the odd feature, almost all of these were to sort out bugs. Ketron could just given us boring fixes like this just to sort out the odd bug here and there, but instead they choose to give us a new GUI, a load of extra styles and who knows what else in OS4. All things that were not on the keyboard we paid for and had they never released them we would never have complained about them. TWD [This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 02-14-2010).]
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#34671 - 02/14/10 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude: I must have missed the post where you said your keyboard is no longer locking up. Thats fantastic news and [b]I bet all our fellow synthzoners will be ecstatic to hear that! I believe you 'mentally' need to seperate new features from bug fixes. Let me give you an example. If you work with computers you will know that the IBM T20 was regarded as one of the most reliable and well built laptops ever made, and IBM's online support system is the benchmark to which all other computer manufacturers aim for. They were rock solid PC's and I have customers that still run them everyday with XP SP3. Have a look at the list of Bios updates: 1.02 IYET36WW 1.03 IYET37WW 1.06 IYET42WW 1.07 IYET43WW 1.08 IYET45WW 1.09 IYET46WW 1.10 IYET49WW 1.11 IYET50WW 1.12 IYET52WW 1.13 IYET53WW 1.14 IYET54WW 1.16 IYET56WW 1.17 IYET57WW 1.18 IYET57WW 1.19 IYET58WW 1.20 IYET59WW 1.21 IYET60WW 1.22 IYET61WW Apart from the odd feature, almost all of these were to sort out bugs. Ketron could just given us boring fixes like this just to sort out the odd bug here and there, but instead they choose to give us a new GUI, a load of extra styles and who knows what else in OS4. All things that were not on the keyboard we paid for and had they never released them we would never have complained about them. TWD [This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 02-14-2010).][/B] Type this in Goggle "IBM T20 crashes" and watch the lights start flashing!
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#34672 - 02/14/10 08:12 AM
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Just shows even the best manufacturers have problems that require bug fixing. you can google anything crashing if you like: mac crashing Do you get my point though? They are obligated to sort out bugs; upgrades are not obligatory. TWD I just thought of another illustration whilst sitting on my throne  You said you have been working with computer programs for years...you might understand this. Lets say you were software designer in a specialist field and are contracted to design a piece of software for a specific application. You negotiate a fixed sum. You worked at it for months, running different scenarios and found it to be ok. However once deployed and working in the real world the company found your software would crash in certain situations or behave in ways you had not anticipated. You might be obliged under contract to sort those errors out without charge, and if you were not obliged in your contract you may choose to do so to keep your reputation. Whilst your working on the bugs you realise the company are using your software in ways you had not expected and that it would be much easier if they had a revised GUI, with more visable on screen controls to monitor events. At the same time they say it would be nice if they had ths or that function. So you decide to add a few other features in there to help make life easier for them. The company have already paid you well for your work so you might decide to add the upgraded features free of charge along with your Bug fixes. Or...you could just install the bug fixes and try and sell them the updates at a later date. Which would your customer appreciate most do you think? TWD [This message has been edited by Tonewheeldude (edited 02-14-2010).]
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#34675 - 02/14/10 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
its just an illustration, the brief doesn't matter - don't read too much into it.
I was trying (and not very well) to make the point that companies like IBM/Lenovo, Mac (yes even they have firmware revisions) Yamaha, Ketron, Hammond..whoever..are not obligated to give us free stuff or updates, but they should be obligated to sort out major bugs.
TWD
TWD, Tell me I am not wrong, you appear to be saying the Ketron need not do anything any more with Audya, other than bugs, thats it, no free upgrades. If you where even half right I would not be a bit surprised at Ketron. From threads I have read on SZ it's a trait that Ketron are experts at. If there are no free upgrades, someone down the Ketron supply chain owe me around £2000.00 that the shortfall Auyda -v- PA2x. I do hope you are wrong Ketron, will need good lawyers!
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#34692 - 03/13/10 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Brian3331:
Where is it Tony? Originally posted by Tony Hughes: Originally posted by drumremix:
[b]Sound Upgrade AUDYA
- 430 nouveaux presets. Sur les familles d'orgue, accordéon, guitare, cuivres, Pad, Synth sont disponibles pages de plus par rapport à la version précédente.
Real voix: les sons indiquées par le signe (R) sont des "vraies voix", c'est-échantillons originaux 1 coup, sans boucle.
Les sons indiquées par le signe (C) utilise le Pitch Bend spéciales fonctionnalité appelée "Country Pedal Steel" (programmable dans Program).
La plupart des sons d'orgue sont fixés avec Rotor Slow-effet rapide, activé FBY la Pédale Sustain.
Un grand nombre de voix ont l'aftertouch présélectionnée, cette option mai en être déconnectés clavier Control> Aftertouch> Arrière & Port Autoswitch On-Off.
- Preset Edit: nouvelle possibilité pour modifier les préréglages et les enregistrer sur les programmes (sans écraser les sons originaux presets)
Sélectionnez avec F1-10, le préréglage et gardez appuyé pendant 1 sec. Ensuite, éditez le bruit, donner un nom, sélectionnez le programme de destination et appuyez sur SAVE. .
- 320 nouveaux programmes: complètement différents de Presets, à Split, Bass & Righ, Left & Right, Morphing combinantions.
- 453 nouveaux GM Voices
- Nouveaux effets DSP: De nouveaux algorithmes de réverbération, Distorsor, Echo, Rotor.
- Nouveau Drawbars numérique:. Possibilité d'inclure dans les programmes aussi les 20 nouveaux préréglages personnalisés appelé Jazz, pop, tubes, Théâtre, Rock.
- Style Lock Balance: est obtenu par pressage simultaneuosly les 2 curseurs horizontaux (un astérisque apparaît à côté de la fonction Style équilibre dans Style Mode> Mode 2 / 2. La fonction permet de fixer un équilibre global pour tous les styles et mai être sauvegardées sur Custom Start Up.
- 2ème voix sur Out 1 & 2: On the Outs ajouté Séparez la possibilité d'envoyer la 2ème Voice on the Out1 sorties 2 et 2.
- Lock Regs Micro: nouvelle fonction ajoutée à Keyboard Utility> Pag 4. Il verrouille le Presets de Micro et Voicetron sur l'enregistrement (mai être sauvegardées sur Start up personnalisé).
Et ce n'est pas fini, alors patience
Oh my little French friend you are so good to us and all this is a BONUS even in French TWD and I can read it, but I would take his advice and take it off especially if OS4 isn’t coming out until next year, we don’t want people get to excited, Diki and Jonny will be buying an Audya and that would never do “ not unless they bought them in the UK” then someone would be happy![/B]Drumermix yoz goosed naw, it's in full blown Englosh, is this real I thonk Ketron are the dogs, and all this a bonedust! Most organ sounds are fixed with Rotor Slow-quick-enabled FBY the Sustain Pedal. Many voices have aftertouch preset, this option may be disconnected keyboard Control> Aftertouch> Backgrounds & Port Autoswitch On-Off. - Preset Edit: new possibility to change the presets and save them to the programs (without overwriting the original sounds presets) Select with F1-10, the preset and keep pressed for 1 sec. Then edit the sound, give a name, select the destination program and press SAVE. . - 320 new programs: completely different presets in Split, Bass & Righ, Left & Right, Morphing combinantions. - 453 new GM Voices - New DSP effects: New reverb algorithms, Distorsor, Echo, Rotor. - New Digital Drawbars:. Ability to include in programs also 20 new custom presets called jazz, pop, tubes, Theater, Rock. - Style Lock Balance: is obtained by pressing simultaneuosly 2 horizontal sliders (an asterisk appears next to the function balance in Style Fashion Style> Mode 2 / 2. The function allows to set an overall balance for all styles and may be saved on Custom Start Up. - 2nd voice on Out 1 & 2: On the Outs Separate added the ability to send 2nd Voice on the Out1 output 2 and 2. - Lock Regs Micro: new feature added to Keyboard Utility> Pag 4. It locks the presets and Micro Voicetron Registration (May be stored on Start up custom). And it's not over, then patience Keep going Drumermix it's like The Sound Of Music, don't stop for me! [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 03-10-2010).]
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#34700 - 03/15/10 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by drumremix:
I asked Sandro Fontanella Ketron of Italy to provide the operating system V4.0 beta testing for all users who want to try this OS.
Could have much more information and advance more quickly, but your response is still awaited! Drumremix, That wouldn’t work, there would be so many bollocks in there even Ketron would be embarrassed to release it. You instinctively know when something is not going to be right and you instinctively know it’s not going to be right first time with Ketron and that includes updates. You will see, if OS4 is OK now then it will be released to us after Messe, there is no reason why not, if there are still problems with OS4 then Ketron can still hold back releasing it way after Messe, maybe June or July or even November, hey what you say! The the fact that Frank has now got a copy some 5 months after OS4 beta testing started is a little concerning, maybe it's Ketrons new "customer care comes first", maybe they have started to read SZ?? [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 03-15-2010).] [This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 03-15-2010).]
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..lets hope 1 week..
Getting a little frustrated these days, my weekend gig was not the best one 
cause of this faulty sound board.
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