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#340005 - 02/16/12 02:41 PM My New Arranger
hammer Offline
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I took the plunge - my KMA arrived at 1PM today. I have it connected to my Bose L1 Compact and the sound is pretty darn good. The built-in speakers are useless for anything more than hobby playing around the house. Now I must learn how to use the Korg OS to save my setups and I'll be rolling. I have small hands and the "extremely small" keys don't bother me at all. It is a fun little machine and for the money does a lot.

I downloaded tons of PA series styles from the Korg site but have not idea how to load them yet. No sleep tonight.

Deane


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#340006 - 02/16/12 02:52 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
Dnj Offline
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Congrats Good luck Dean with your new KMA clap ....not hard to learn the KORG OS...if you need help just ask..you'll need a SD card to load styles, ect, also.. there more then enough KORG people here to answer questions. Have Fun

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#340014 - 02/16/12 03:45 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: Dnj]
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Best of luck with it Deanne ...
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#340021 - 02/16/12 09:00 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Hi Deane,
congratulations.
You sure have all bases covered. haahaa
Yamaha, Ketron ( with varranger ) now Korg, do you also have Roland ?? if not, VArranger should cover that option soon too.

Enjoy your new toy.

(btw, I always refer to my keyboards as my toys) haahaa
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#340024 - 02/16/12 11:46 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Originally Posted By: hammer
The built-in speakers are useless for anything more than hobby playing around the house. Deane


Are you sure Deane, I thought that was the main advantage, weight and no external speakers, are you saying its only fit for playing in the front room. What's that KB on the chair son of KMA. rotf2

Deane the Ipad looks huge in the photo, I can see you read off it.

Reagrds

Tony
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#340026 - 02/16/12 11:57 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: Tony Hughes]
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Originally Posted By: Tony Hughes
Originally Posted By: hammer
The built-in speakers are useless for anything more than hobby playing around the house. Deane


Are you sure Deane, I thought that was the main advantage, weight and no external speakers, are you saying its only fit for playing in the front room.
Tony


Tony,
If you read one of my threads on the KMA you will find that weeks ago I already mentioned the fact that the amplfication is very poor. I have run all of my extensive PA50 software thru it, and it simply does not do justice to it. However it does not need big things. Simply check out e.g.
the Creative Gigaworks T10 speaker set (very small, no wooferbox) which retail at approx. 30 quid and they already do wonders to the sound of the Micro, let alone other amplification. Also running it e.g. thru your
Tyros 4 you would not recognise it !!! The keys on the other hand are less of a problem than I (and most) had anticipated. Still I stick to the opinion that chords (accompaniment) are best played on the main keyboard that generally accompanies the KMA..................

regards,
John Smies


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#340030 - 02/17/12 02:00 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
I just bought a Korg PS60 to go with my KMA. I now have a light rig that will hold it's own anywhere, connected to my Bose Compact.

The PS60 is a performance KB, and good for fast intrument changes and based on new technology than the KMA. It is also highly editable.

Bernie
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#340035 - 02/17/12 03:22 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Bernie,

How are you stacking up the new KMA with your Audya, bearing in mind there is £3500 difference in the two. Just appears that people are going for low cost rather high end. My old Mum always said you only get what you pay for.

Regards

Tony
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#340046 - 02/17/12 07:46 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Enjoy your KMA Hammer. I’ve had one for two weeks now and really like it. No problems playing standard LH chords, RH melody for popular music on it. I see it as a useful tool (not a toy) for certain situations like casual get togethers, air travel, or any occasion where set up/load in maybe complicated by stairs, tight space, or transportation issues. Ever try to get a Tyros in a flight case into a small Mexican cab? Not recommended…
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#340051 - 02/17/12 08:59 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Tony

My old dad used to say the same thing, however, there are some mitigating factors in the equation.

No R&D costs, cheaper keybed and case, less features, etc.
In my case, less is more for certain venues.

My Audya is still king, but royalty needn't attend lesser functions. They are different, and the light rig is a lot of fun.
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#340054 - 02/17/12 09:44 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Hi Deane,
Congratulations and welcome aboard the Korg microArranger train. smile

I'm curious though,
because I remember you saying that because the microArranger doesn't support automatic STS (1-4) changing when moving from one variation to another,
that this alone would make it a deal breaker for you.
Now that you have the KMA, how (if at all) are you dealing with that, especially realizing how essential it is for you on your Yamaha keyboard.

Scott

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#340081 - 02/17/12 01:59 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
hammer Offline
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I have never been much interested in learning all the down and dirty details of any arranger I have owned but I hope to do just that with the little Korg. For me it is just another way to fill my days when I am not gigging.

The built-in speakers are very poor at best. Sound quality is bad and volume is poor. Even for playing around the house it requires a bit better speaker setup. l am using my Bose L1 Compacts with it and it sounds pretty good. A good pair of headphones would work fine too.

By the way, the SD card slot is in the back of the unit - poor placement in my opinion. Also, the card goes in the slot up-side-down compared to all other SD card slots I have ever used. I am finding the screen usable and not to bad at all but I do miss the lights on the buttons to tell me what is on or off. The keyboard labels would be hard to read in a dark gig environment and will require some sort of lighting. And unlike the PA1X and PA2X pro I owned when you change variations or sounds there is no glitch or pause - it is seemless.

I thought not being able to lock a sound into a variation and have the sound change with variation changes would be a bummer - but I am finding it rather easy to change both when needed. The OS is fast - things load rapidly and there is no waiting for your selections to be playable.

I have a ton of Korg styles and have managed to learn how to load them from the SD card - but I still have not figured out how to load performances from the SD card. I have done a factory restore and that was easy and fast.

To be useful on gigs there has to be a way to create a "playlist" on the SD card and access that. I don't know how to do that yet - but the night is not over. All in all for the money it is a winner - and I have no real complaints. It certainly will be fun to work with and perhaps I will learn how to tweak sounds and even create styles..

Deane


Edited by hammer (02/17/12 02:02 PM)

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#340085 - 02/17/12 03:05 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Hi Scott,

Each arranger has it's own uniqueness that lends itself to certain ways of using it. With my Tyros 4 the RH lead sounds are so darn good that it adds to the performance to change them with each variation change. By the way, years back Lawrence Welk became famous doing just that - just about every 8 bars he had his arrangers switch instrumentation. It provided a little more interest in the performance.

Now for the Korg - it is a different beast than the T4 and the variations within the styles often provide all that is needed. However, I have not found it hard to reach up and change both at the same time while playing. Not ideal in my opinion but doable. Perhaps an OS upgrade in the future will change this. Also, I still don't find a lot of the RH lead voices on the Korg very realistic or musical for that part. However, if I learn how to work with the editors perhaps I can change that.

Anyway, I like the little Korg - it will be a lot of fun to play with and for the money you can't lose.

Deane


Edited by hammer (02/17/12 03:06 PM)

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#340094 - 02/17/12 06:16 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Deane,
I was wondering when you would buy a KMA, you very little fly past you.

Enjoy the KMA it was made for enjoyment – fun.

John C.

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#340099 - 02/17/12 08:15 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: bruno123]
hammer Offline
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Loc: Texas
Hi Bruno,
It is not much money and for what you pay you get a lot. If I ever figure out how to setup a gig play list I'll take it out on a gig. I like to have everything organized and flow from song to song on gigs. I have all my Tyros 4 stuff setup that way - just need to learn now to do it on my little Korg. I have found some really good styles to match up with tunes I play but I don't know how to rename them and save them either on the SD card or on free spots on the keyboard. I have also found stuff I'll never use and would like to get rid of that so the setup would be personalized for my needs.

So far I am a happy camper.

Deane

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#340100 - 02/17/12 08:43 PM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
Dnj Offline
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Deanne what I did was just create performances, make your edits, sounds, vol, pan, FX etc... Title and overwrite the factory ones, bank by bank....then you can just go bank by bank for songs viewing by title.......save your sts to the current style also. makes it real easy to use at a gig.


Edited by Dnj (02/17/12 08:52 PM)

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#340239 - 02/19/12 05:11 AM Re: My New Arranger [Re: hammer]
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
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Loc: Texas
After spending 3 full days with the little KMA I believe it is a keeper. The overall sound of the keyboard is pretty good and I am learning how to get around the OS and make and save the changes I want which is a plus. I should point out that fellow Synth Zone member John Smies has been a hugh help in filling in the missing links in the manual for me. I purchased his package after reviewing a sample he sent to me. Looks to be pretty good overall and comes with some good instructions for the newbie like myself. It is hard to imagine what you get in the KMA for the price.

Deane

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