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#324903 - 05/25/11 04:48 AM What Political type are you?
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The Pew Research Center has available an interesting quiz that by answering a series of questions on various issues, will show where you land compared to others.

Takes just a few minutes to complete. Its free, no pay wall or registration required.


Take the quiz here: Reasonable Conversation

Could make for an interesting discussion. Did you turn out the way you anticipated or were you surprised? These things aren't 100% accurate, you can always poke holes in their methodology, but still something fun to try.


Edited by Bill in Dayton (05/25/11 04:50 AM)
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#324917 - 05/25/11 10:21 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Bill, I've been following and enjoying smile your political blog,
Just took the Pew Poll and the result categorized me (predictably) as: Post Modern cool

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#324918 - 05/25/11 10:23 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Bill, I've been following and enjoying smile your political blog,
Just took the Pew Poll and the result categorized me (predictably) as: Post Modern cool


Thank you, Scott. I appreciate that...the more the merrier! Keep reading!
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#324925 - 05/25/11 11:14 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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SOLID LIBERAL is where I'm at, too!

And, that should be no surprise to anyone here!


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#324941 - 05/25/11 02:01 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Bill, I tried to respond to your blog topic entitled

"What if the world ends, who do you want to see in heaven?".

It didn't seem to take although I selected 'anonymous' as a profile. In any case, this was the comment I TRIED to post.

Hypothetically (since no such place exists), if there were such a place, none (or very few) of the people I'd like to meet and talk to would be there. But, disregarding the location smile , the people I'd most like to have met would include (but not be limited to) the following:

Guy de Maupassant
Honoré de Balzac
Aldous Huxley
John Donne
Edgar Allan Poe
Thelonious Monk
Hannibal
Martin Luther King, Jr
Sameul Clemmens (Mark Twain)
Charles Barkley
Oscar Wilde
Christopher Hitchens
H. Rap Brown
Rod Serling
Edith Piaf
Marcus Garvey
Larry David
Bill Evans
William F. Buckley (suprise!)
Albert Einstein
Jimmy Carter (already met at a HH build)

As you can see, some are still with us, so there's still hope.

I'm not sure what this says about me, though.

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#324955 - 05/25/11 02:42 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Solid Liberal...I like the sound of that.
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#324957 - 05/25/11 02:51 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Hey Chas....

Sorry about that, try it again please.

Post your comment in the provided for space, select anonymous and then click on "post comment".

It should work. If anyone else wants to test this feature, that would be welcome...

I've heard of no other problems yet on it...
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#324980 - 05/26/11 12:19 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: cgiles]
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Chas that is such an awesome selection of people. I can totally identify with your choices. I guess I would also love to meet Django Reindhart, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Christian, John Coltrane, Dave Brubeck and Miles Davis .... oh and my favorite bass player of all time who is still with us and who I saw play live a couple of years back with Return To Forever ... Stanley Clarke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YShQZUMe7g&feature=related ... pure musical magic.


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#324993 - 05/26/11 05:03 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
.... oh and my favorite bass player of all time who is still with us and who I saw play live a couple of years back with Return To Forever ... Stanley Clarke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YShQZUMe7g&feature=related ... pure musical magic.



Few bands from any era or any genre' could match these guys for musicianship, creativity, and just sheer mastery of their instruments. It's as though God himself put these guys together. However, I didn't want my list to include just musicians, but more the people that I found intriguing as personalities. Certainly if I were limiting it to just musicians, every one of the guys you named would be in the top ten.

My mother caught me reading Balzac's 'Droll Tales' when I was @ 10 or 11 (plucked from our library). She frowned but didn't ban me from reading it. It was like great medieval porn for an 11 year old smile . Both of my parents were educators, so I'm grateful for the literary exposure I had as a child.

Bill's blog is very interesting, as evidenced by this particular topic (Who would you like to meet in Heaven?). Of course, in order to meet anyone there, you first have to get there yourself. Oh well.

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#325005 - 05/26/11 11:20 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Nigel]
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Stanley is GREAT! I also love my little buddy Victor Wooten. One of Ray Brown's last performances was with Victor and a "legit" bass player...Edgar Meyer (also fantastic). I was lucky to see that one in Louisville, Ky. It ranks 2nd to the performance by Return to Forever in Lexington in 1977. It was the last performance by the band before disbanding.

Just wish Victor would forget the Bluegrass thing he does with Bella Fleck.


Oh well,


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#325035 - 05/26/11 05:27 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Bill, I've been following and enjoying smile your political blog,
Just took the Pew Poll and the result categorized me (predictably) as: 'Post Modern'
Bill et al:
Ok, I've now got to admit that, though it 'sounds' cool cool , I'm actually not familiar with the term 'Post Modern' in regards to politics.
Can someone please explain what it refers to as far as one's Political leaning.
Thanks. - Scott smile

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#325042 - 05/26/11 07:20 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Here's the Pew Research Center page describing what each category means....

If you browse around the home page there additional info available about the study and survey. Your group Scott, in general strongly favors re-electing President Obama. Does that jive with your feelings?
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#325045 - 05/26/11 08:18 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Hi Bill:
First of all, I'm registered as an 'Independent'.
Considering what Obama inherited,I think he's probably doing as well (and possibly better) than anybody else (from either party) put in the same situation could.
The problem lies with the 'intense' polarization of the electorate, with neither side willing to compromise, resulting in nothing ever getting accomplished.
As far as re-electing him, considering the others currently running, Obama still has my vote, but not so strongly as you say the 'Post Modern' group suggests.

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#325049 - 05/27/11 12:25 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
First of all, I'm registered as an 'Independent'.


I think that is the smart thing to do. Never tie yourself to any party line and simply choose the best candidate at the time.

If people do always align themselves with a party and let them make decisions for them then that is their choice. It is just not my idea of free thinking.


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#325050 - 05/27/11 01:10 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: captain Russ]
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Originally Posted By: captain Russ
Stanley is GREAT! I also love my little buddy Victor Wooten.R.


Stanley, Victor and Marcus Miller jamming together ... and I just love that harmonized bass run that they finish on.


Oops sorry, forgot this was a political thread .... maybe it's not too late for the presidential candidates to take up playing bass guitar

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#325054 - 05/27/11 05:01 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Originally Posted By: captain Russ
Stanley is GREAT! I also love my little buddy Victor Wooten.R.


Stanley, Victor and Marcus Miller jamming together ... and I just love that harmonized bass run that they finish on.


Oops sorry, forgot this was a political thread .... maybe it's not too late for the presidential candidates to take up playing bass guitar



Oh but they do, lol...

(Well, Huckabee's officially not running, but this was as close as I could find..)
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#325055 - 05/27/11 05:09 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Hi Bill:
First of all, I'm registered as an 'Independent'.
Considering what Obama inherited,I think he's probably doing as well (and possibly better) than anybody else (from either party) put in the same situation could.
The problem lies with the 'intense' polarization of the electorate, with neither side willing to compromise, resulting in nothing ever getting accomplished.
As far as re-electing him, considering the others currently running, Obama still has my vote, but not so strongly as you say the 'Post Modern' group suggests.


Agreed, Scott. Things like this can paint a generally accurate picture of a person's political leanings, but its not a black and white thing. I've voted Republican the two of the last three elections. Not because I was enamored with George Bush, but because I was so un-impressed with the candidates from the left.

I voted for Obama and will probably do so again. As I continue to slide to the left what choice do I have? A moderate conservative probably couldn't get elected in this environment and there's no way I vote for a Tea Party type. I think Obama's done some difficult things and I give him full marks for those (i.e. health care reform) but he also has really made some silly mistakes along the way. It should be a very interesting campaign season and I pray...I PRAY...Sarah Palin gets into the race, which it appears she may at some point.

Call it a Bloggers holiday, lol... party

Remember, the Republicans have to eat all but one of their own before taking on Obama.

Get the popcorn, guys...


Edited by Bill in Dayton (05/27/11 05:15 AM)
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#325062 - 05/27/11 08:34 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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MARCUS MILLER FOR PRESIDENT!


YEA!


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#325210 - 05/28/11 09:28 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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According to the poll, I'm a Solid Liberal, but I was a Hillary backer, even though she is more to the center than Obama.

During the 2008 Democrat Primaries for POTUS, Hillary Clinton won the big States where people actually live...New York, California, Pennsylvania,etc. Obama however won all those little States, many of those States that would never vote for a Democrat on Election Day.

I wonder if anything would have been different with Hillary. Perhaps, we would have an even better Health Care plan with a Public Option. Maybe we would have been nearly totally withdrawn from Iraq, and Afghanistan would be dwindling down. The GITMO fiasco would be over, and the Bush tax cuts for the super rich would have been allowed to expire.

So while Obama is OK...Hillary may have been a better choice. Don't get me wrong, I like Obama, and voted for him, McCain /Palin was a scary. ticket. I just liked Hillary's experience and toughness a bit more.

PS: Bill...you voted for Bush over Gore? What did you NOT like about '92-99'? Too much Peace and Prosperity? Are you now happy with that vote? I do agree with you, in '04 the Dem's could have, and should have run someone other than Kerry, although he would have been better than Bush. IMO

PSS: Palin running for President would be interesting... in an annoying sort of way. cry





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#325213 - 05/28/11 10:04 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: captain Russ]
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Originally Posted By: captain Russ
MARCUS MILLER FOR PRESIDENT!


YEA!


R.


And he's a way better bass player than Mike Huckabee

And I doubt he'd play for Ted Nugent

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#325235 - 05/29/11 04:31 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: lahawk]
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Originally Posted By: lahawk
I wonder if anything would have been different with Hillary. Perhaps, we would have an even better Health Care plan with a Public Option. Maybe we would have been nearly totally withdrawn from Iraq, and Afghanistan would be dwindling down. The GITMO fiasco would be over, and the Bush tax cuts for the super rich would have been allowed to expire.





Perhaps Larry, but you have to wonder if Hillary would have met the same kind of unprecedented partisanship and outright obstructionism that Obama has had to endure for his entire presidency. Maybe. Don't forget, she had even less success trying to get a health care bill passed. I don't think we've ever before seen idealogues wield so much power or the Republican party be SO far right. Obviously, some of it stems from the inability of many in this country to accept Obama as president, no matter what kind of job he does. That's not going to change in the foreseeable future (sad, but true). Because of that (not that he is otherwise perfect), it is possible that Hillary may have been able to get more done. However, it is my belief that the Limbaugh's and Beck's of this world, combined with the residual sexism in this country, would have been just as relentless in their efforts to destroy her as they have been with Obama.

That said, I think she has been a terrific Sec'y of State and probably would have made a good, possibly a great, president. Had Obama not been in the race, I would have been a strong supporter, but as a Black man, I felt obligated to try to strike a blow against racism in this country by helping to elect an EQUALLY QUALIFIED candidate become the country's first Black president. I thought (wrongly) that this might start an attitudinal shift that might finally start us down a road to more racial tolerance; instead it just started the 'Tea Party'. Oh well.

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#325241 - 05/29/11 05:49 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: lahawk]
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Originally Posted By: lahawk
PS: Bill...you voted for Bush over Gore? What did you NOT like about '92-99'? Too much Peace and Prosperity? Are you now happy with that vote? I do agree with you, in '04 the Dem's could have, and should have run someone other than Kerry, although he would have been better than Bush. IMO


I'm not a loyal party line voter. Gore turned me off. This isn't very fair to say but the best way I can put it is he gave me the same feeling that actor Jon Lovitz does. Gore seemed to have a BS answer for just about everything. Remember, he didn't even carry his own home state.

To this day, I think he's a stuffed shirt/used car salesman.

In a broader view, I felt the Country could use a step back to the Right at that time as well. I do remember standing in the voting booth and saying (I thought to myself but apparently not as the lady next to me laughed when I said it.) "Which pile of [potty mouth] do I want this time?"
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#325243 - 05/29/11 05:55 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Chas-

I agree that Clinton has been an excellent SOS. I think in some ways, her Presidency might've been less demonized. I think her policies would've been similar at the end of the day, but one big difference would been her discipline.

While her campaign badly lacked that quality, I think she's smart as a whip. I've lost track of how many times President Obama has committed an unforced error. The "Cambridge police acted stupidly" without knowing the facts, not putting his hand over his heart at a campaign stop in Iowa in '08, even using the word "redistribution" to Joe the Plumber, inviting Common to the WH for the Poetry thing, Waiting so long to put out his long form birth certificate, etc.

I like Obama, but for how smart this guy is he's done some awfully dumb things.

Hillary would not have made those same gaffs, I think....
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#325248 - 05/29/11 06:21 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Bill, I think most of the 'mistakes' you attribute to Obama are the actions of someone who, at the time, may not have been as politically savvy as some of his more 'seasoned' colleagues. Which of his so-called 'mistakes' do you think, has impacted his ability to govern? BTW, I consider the 'Cambridge' incident a true gaff; inviting Common to the WH (under the circumstances in which he was invited), not so much. Finding out the TRUTH about Joe the Plumber kinda reduced that whole thing to joke status. As far as 'redistribution', why SHOULD 1% of the population control most of the nation's wealth (and STILL get tax breaks). I believe in capitalism, but isn't that kind of ridiculous? I think the Republican party has done a MASTERFUL job of convincing a large segment of poor, undereducated, dimwits that they need to stand up for the rights of the very rich. As Don King would say, "Only in America" (or P.T. Barnum - 'there's a sucker born every day').

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#325252 - 05/29/11 08:01 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Chas-

Other than music, my formal education is in marketing. Those miscues I cited above distorted his message to voters. In several cases, thanks to conservative media, he's surrendered way too many 24 hour news cycles. Its undisciplined and there's a price tag for blurring your message.

Obama's success in '08 came on the backs of, in many ways, independent voters. All this noise, while not substantive, hurts him. I call it death by a thousand paper cuts.

I think all of those errors can be explained away, but every time he does one of those, it costs him X number of votes. His electoral path to re-election I think, will be much harder this time than last, in spite of the traditional advantages a siting POTUS usually enjoys...


Edited by Bill in Dayton (05/29/11 08:02 AM)
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#325261 - 05/29/11 08:39 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Originally Posted By: Bill in Dayton
His electoral path to re-election I think, will be much harder this time than last, in spite of the traditional advantages a siting POTUS usually enjoys...


A sitting POTUS also has some disadvantages (think 'W', second term), such as the current state of the economy which he may or may not have contributed to, the unemployment rate, the national debt, unpopular legislation that happened on his watch (even if it proves to become popular in the long term - ex. medicare and social security), unpopular military engagements (with only 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' options), and let's not forget the whimsy of the Media. Let's not forget Bush Senior with a 92% approval rating just months before he lost to Billy Bob. America is nothing if not unpredictable. Still, I think a lot depends on who the Republicans choose, and how acceptable that person is to independents (who will end up being the 'deciders'). Despite some low points in it's history, I still don't think America is ready to appoint a Newt Gingrich or a Sarah Palin or a Michelle Bachmann, as President of the United States. They ain't THAT stupid.

BTW, enjoy the exchange of opinions. Waiting for Larry to jump in here smile smile .

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#325278 - 05/29/11 09:31 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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All too often, Americans vote for personality, rather than smarts. True Brush is the kind of guy one would like to have a beer with, but it sure is not a reason to vote for him to be a leader of the free world. Gore was clearly the smarter most qualified candidate, but unfortunately too many voters did not like Gore's "personality".

BTW...Gore received 600,000 more votes than Bush, and Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court, and if I have a criticism of Gore, he (like many Democrats) didn't fight for himself or those that voted for him. He did win Florida!

In my lifetime, to me Bush was the worst President EVER. I have quite a few friends and acquaintances who regretted their vote for Bush, including a father of a soldier lost in Iraq. Even more amazing was the Bush re-election in '04. Nobody ever said voters need to be smart, although I do consider Bill a very smart person grin

Chas and Bill, good points about Obama.

The perfect ticket would have been
2008
President Hillary Clinton
Vice President Barack Obama

2016 we would have had a still young Obama running for Pres.
Maybe by then the Media would have accepted a Black Guy as President...nahh, I'm dreaming

Side bar: I have ieSpell and during the spell check, I'm offered spelling substitutes for "Barack" and for "Obama".


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#325286 - 05/29/11 10:19 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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That Spellchecker is clearly Republican smile smile smile .

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#325953 - 06/05/11 03:49 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Poll says I'm a main street Republican. I found most of the questions to be too leading to the extremes of each point of view.
I'm a pro-life free thinker, and I support family values above all other political agendas. Not sure why I'm posting all this - I guess I hear too many Leftist statements in the entertainment industry ... I wanted a conservative to be heard, I guess. Before politics - it's the golden rule for me:
Treat your neighbor as you would yourself, and most of the worlds troubles will go a way!
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#325954 - 06/05/11 03:50 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: lahawk]
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Originally Posted By: lahawk
All too often, Americans vote for personality, rather than smarts. True Brush is the kind of guy one would like to have a beer with, but it sure is not a reason to vote for him to be a leader of the free world. Gore was clearly the smarter most qualified candidate, but unfortunately too many voters did not like Gore's "personality".

BTW...Gore received 600,000 more votes than Bush, and Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court, and if I have a criticism of Gore, he (like many Democrats) didn't fight for himself or those that voted for him. He did win Florida!

In my lifetime, to me Bush was the worst President EVER. I have quite a few friends and acquaintances who regretted their vote for Bush, including a father of a soldier lost in Iraq. Even more amazing was the Bush re-election in '04. Nobody ever said voters need to be smart, although I do consider Bill a very smart person grin

Chas and Bill, good points about Obama.

The perfect ticket would have been
2008
President Hillary Clinton
Vice President Barack Obama

2016 we would have had a still young Obama running for Pres.
Maybe by then the Media would have accepted a Black Guy as President...nahh, I'm dreaming

Side bar: I have ieSpell and during the spell check, I'm offered spelling substitutes for "Barack" and for "Obama".




OMG - Larry - it's a good thing we can still agree on the EAGLES!!!! We'd never be able to talk at dinner! LOL
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#325966 - 06/05/11 08:43 PM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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They're all crooks !

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#325986 - 06/06/11 09:31 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave

I'm a pro-life free thinker, and I support family values above all other political agendas.
Uncle Dave, I can't understand how one can consider themselves a free thinker yet be against abortion at the same time. confused1
Consider this Freethinkers.com article: If Abortion became Illegal.

Free Thinker
Definition: One who has rejected authority and dogma, especially in religious thinking, in favor of rational inquiry and speculation.

Pro-Life
Definition: opposed to abortion and a woman's right to choose it.

Family Values:
Definition: most often associated with social & religious conservatives. Opposition to sex outside of marriage. Opposed to abortion & same sex marriage.

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#326029 - 06/07/11 05:12 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Sorry Scott, I'm not here to explain or debate. I just stated a few facts about myself. Make your own conclusions, if you must, but I don't like discussing politics.
It's hard enough for us all to agree about music and gear! LOL
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#326034 - 06/07/11 05:47 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Sorry Scott, I'm not here to explain or debate. I just stated a few facts about myself. Make your own conclusions, if you must, but I don't like discussing politics.
It's hard enough for us all to agree about music and gear! LOL


Above you said you wanted a Conservative to be heard.

Its kind of a tease, as we need, IMO, a stronger Conservative presence in the Bar. The Bar tends to be more civil than the main board, I think. You could certainly add something to the conversation.
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#326040 - 06/07/11 06:42 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
lahawk Offline
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Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Dave,

Republican Senators have dinner with Democrat Senators quite often. Political differences are just that, different views on Government policy. I for one respect your position, and may argue, but in no way would I let Politics ruin a friendship.

Besides we have other things we can talk about:

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#326061 - 06/07/11 09:18 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Uncle Dave]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Before politics - it's the golden rule for me:
Treat your neighbor as you would yourself, and most of the worlds troubles will go a way!
In an idea world I would agree.
Problem is: 'how' one may want to be treated, often differs, from neighborhood to neighborhood, and from culture to culture.

Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Sorry Scott, I'm not here to explain or debate . . . I wanted a conservative to be heard.
As a freethinker, I'm not a member of a political party, nor do I label myself conservative or liberal.
I evaluate each issue on its own merit and without influence of any given political or religious doctrine.
To better help me come to my own conclusions, I enjoy hearing from people of all different persuasions and political viewpoints.
How you come to your conservative viewpoint would be fascinating to learn, as much as how Larry, Chas, Taike, Bill, etc. came to their differing view points as well.
Because we hold such longtime Synthzone friendships (up to 12 years for some of us), cool
I doubt whatever political discussions made here will ever approach the far more member divisive arranger keyboard brand/model preferences,
so hope you might reconsider sharing more about your background and political perspective. - Scott smile


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#326063 - 06/07/11 09:54 AM Re: What Political type are you? [Re: Bill in Dayton]
lahawk Offline
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2781
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Complete Opposites on the Political Spectrum...




Yet the best of friends.

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Larry "Hawk"

Hawk Music
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