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#320521 - 03/30/11 05:41 PM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: shim]
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Registered: 03/25/11
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FransN, Indeed styles and drums are not important for me, and because of this, I have looked at videos of different synthetizer on Youtube, specifically, Motif XS and Korg M50. While in general I like synthetizer's sounds more, to my ears, guitar sound on Motif XS is not as good as SA guitar sounds on S910, and M50 guitar sound is not as good as that on PA500. May be I am wrong because I have checked only videos and not real keyboards.
Even S910 and XS are kinda expensive for me, and this is why I think PA500 can be a better option, but if guitar and other acoustic sounds on S910 are much better, I will choose it. But definitely nothing more expensive than S910 or XS that are almost of the same price, so Kronos and PA800 are not affordable for me.
Shim, Unfortunately nearest GC with S910 is 200 miles away.
I should also add that I am an absolute beginner and this will be my first keyboard and I wanna start practicing guitar and piano pieces on it.
I do appreciate your comments since I will make my final decision based on your helpful comments and will order it online.
Edited by kami (03/30/11 05:46 PM)
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#320591 - 03/31/11 04:31 PM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: FransN]
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I agree, this editing ability looks interesting to me, so it is like I also have a synthetizer, which gives more understanding of the keyboards.
I contacted two persons who have guitar sound videos on Youtube and have used both keyboards. First one said Korg sounds are more like listening to live music in front of the band, while Yamaha sounds are like listening to concert or CD music. I think he is right, since it describes my feeling about guitar sound on S910. Beautiful, but not live and deep.
Unfortunately, the second person said he has broken two keys in a year, mostly because of playing guitar pieces. May be an extended warranty solves this problem.
BTW, both said, both PA500 and S910 are amazing.
Edited by kami (03/31/11 04:54 PM)
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#320658 - 04/01/11 09:18 AM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: FransN]
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Registered: 03/25/11
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Frans,
You are right. It is difficult, but I think PA500 is the best choice. Not as expensive as XS6 or S910, with ability to modify sounds, 80 polyphones vs 60 on M50 and MO6, and most important for me, guitar sounds that are probably better than others. I think XS6 is also a good one, but 700$ more, and I should buy speakers too, so I do not think with my needs, it worth it. Any suggestion?
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#320847 - 04/04/11 04:42 PM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: FransN]
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Registered: 03/25/11
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Hi, Frans, I have not received it yet, probably Friday. I am reading the manual and watching the video tutorial for PA800.
1. Since many had problem with joystick, I was thinking that may be the sustain pedal which looks much more durable, can does the same thing. Is it so?
2. I already have guitar amp and processor, but may be connecting those to PA500 cause some damages to electronic boards. Is it possible?
Since there is a 15 days return policy, with full refund, I am still checking other keyboards, specially synthetizerts. Searching through videos on Youtube, I still think PA500 has better (at least deeper) sound than Yamaha S710/910, and Korg M50.
3. Since I have no background in keyboards, it is strange for me that I can not find demos with equal guitar sound quality on M50. Other than having more styles, can I say arrangers like PA500, also have better predefined sounds, compared to synthetizers? or all sounds on PA500 SHOULD be available on M50 with same quality?
Thanks again.
Edited by kami (04/04/11 04:48 PM)
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#320948 - 04/06/11 04:37 AM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: kami]
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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should I use the same order but keyboard instead of guitar? Can I still use the keyboard speakers or I should use the amp?
**I was under the impression that you did not want to use a guitar amp. The keyboard inputs allow you to amplify an outboard source, but that is your choice. The question is: "Do you want to use your guitar amp, or travel light?" Also, If I want to use processor pedal as a sustain pedal, should I use the pedal, input or output connection? **I'm not sure I understand this question, but if you are asking if you can use your guitar processor as a sustain pedal for the keyboard, the answer is no. The jack on your keyboard is for a dedicated momentary on/on type footswitch to trigger internal options in the Korg. Also I think the guitar processor and amp should have some kind of output signal too, that activates the pickups in guitar. Doesn't this kind of feedback signal, damage the keyboard? ** "Electronics 101" says that you NEVER connect an amplified output to an input, so unless your guitar amp has a "line out" you should not connect it to the keyboards inputs. It sounds to me like you would like to use the functions of this guitar amp - that's great, but i see no reason to connect it to the keyboard inputs. The speakers in the Korg are probably not as powerful as the guitar amp, and are easily overloaded if not careful. The best way to utilize those inputs is when you don't have room for another amp and want to monitor keyboard and guitar through the same speakers. Hope some of this helps. UD
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#320979 - 04/06/11 10:42 AM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Uncle Dave, I will use the keyboard only in my apartment, and since I have read that speakers on PA500 are not great, I was thinking that I can have better sound quality with guitar amp. May be speakers are good enough for home use, and I have also read that guitar amps are not as good as keyboard amps.
Yes, I meant if I can use processor pedal as sustain pedal. So, I can not. It looks the guitar processor can not be of much use with keyboard.
My guitar amp has only input, but I think it is the amp that activates the pickups in guitar, so does this mean the guitar amp has some kind of output signal through the input jack?
So, can I use the guitar amp with keyboard, and if yes, should I use the phones jack on keyboard, or the output one? I think both should be the same.
Thanks.
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#321031 - 04/06/11 06:32 PM
Re: Guitar sound S910 - PA500 , build quality PA500
[Re: kami]
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Hi Kami, If your guitar amp has only one input then you are basically running two separate systems ... one guitar and amp, and one powered keyboard. If volume is not an issue - you can still choose to run the guitar pedal into the inputs on the keyboard and send the entire mix into the guitar amp. As a rule, guitar amps don't sound great for keyboard, but there are exceptions to every rule too. Try the processor directly into the kb and see if you like the sound. If it's not what you want, then use the amp, but with only one input, the kb will need to have it's own amp if you want more volume.
The guitar amp input has no control over your guitar's pickups. It merely amplifies the output from the pickups. Headphone jacks are more powerful than standard outputs, and can cause noise and distortion, so I would use the line outs for the best sound.
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