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#312791 - 01/17/11 01:48 AM The main reasons to get a PA 3x
jamman Offline
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Kog did their home work and apperently fixed their previous complaints.


The main reaons to get a PA 3x (for me are)

1. 4 fills plus break (all Yamaha style library will be converted by the Korg 3 rd party support /users - The main complaint from previous Yamaha has 4 fills and auto fill button and Korg did not. If this works, Korg may steal a lot of other brand users).Since Yamaha has alot of simple straight foward styles for Western music (not country). Converted Yamaha styles (Irish Acts website) suffered for above mentioned reasons. This issue will be solved with PA 3x.


2. 61 keys (small and light) with no speakers on board yet can attach in seconds.
You will have non bulky and light weight pro arranger thet looks like a synth (love the new color too)

3. Ribbon Controller and and 8 insert efx (TOTL synth features in an arranger - try that with Yamaha or Roland)

4. 61 key version has XLR in and Improved VH (with auto tune - not a fan but is now wisely used in new pop songs - so this is a major plus- integrated in an arranger).

5. Of course -Chord sequencer - Now play your solo with your right hand while your left hand is busy with joy stick and ribbon controller!!! (Thank you Korg - Finally , you got it)




What are yours?


Edited by jamman (01/17/11 01:52 AM)

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#312793 - 01/17/11 02:20 AM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
jamman Offline
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Originally Posted By: jamman
Kog did their home work and apperently fixed their previous complaints.


The main reaons to get a PA 3x (for me are)

1. 4 fills plus break (all Yamaha style library will be converted by the Korg 3 rd party support /users - The main complaint from previous Yamaha has 4 fills and auto fill button and Korg did not. If this works, Korg may steal a lot of other brand users).Since Yamaha has alot of simple straight foward styles for Western music (not country). Converted Yamaha styles (Irish Acts website) suffered for above mentioned reasons. This issue will be solved with PA 3x.


2. 61 keys (small and light) with no speakers on board yet can attach in seconds.
You will have non bulky and light weight pro arranger thet looks like a synth (love the new color too)

3. Ribbon Controller and and 8 insert efx (TOTL synth features in an arranger - try that with Yamaha or Roland)

4. 61 key version has XLR in and Improved VH (with auto tune - not a fan but is now wisely used in new pop songs - so this is a major plus- integrated in an arranger).

5. Of course -Chord sequencer - Now play your solo with your right hand while your left hand is busy with joy stick and ribbon controller!!! (Thank you Korg - Finally , you got it)




What are yours?




6. Dual Seq that crossfades SMFs and MP3 - Chage tempo of the audio file without changing pitch - GREAT FOR GUITAR /OTHER INSTRUMNENT PLAYERS TO LEARN FAST LICKS IN NO TIME BY SLOWING DOWN TEMPO - TRANSPOSE WITHOUT PITCH CHANGE - MP3 LYRIC DISPLAY
DJ two audio songs by manipulating pitch/play live on the tracks (while you are tired of singing)

in all in one instrument that has speakers - Great job.


Edited by jamman (01/17/11 02:26 AM)

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#312806 - 01/17/11 07:01 AM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
Sokratis 1974 Offline
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AND MORE:
1) Final Mastering Suite by famus <WAVES> Plug ins!!!
(MaxxEQ™, MaxxBass™, MaxxTreble™, MaxxStereo™, MaxxVolume™)
POWER!!!.....

2) <Unbalanced/Balanced> Jack Left/Mono, Right/Mono, Out 1, Out 2!!!
Balanced!!!....
It is very good, for a clean, balanced audio sound!!!

3)Mute and Unmute, buttons for real time control, in any Upper and Lower ....



Edited by Sokratis 1974 (01/17/11 07:06 AM)
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#312811 - 01/17/11 09:06 AM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
As a Tyros 4 owner, here are a few things about the Pa3x that appeal to me:

1) Korg Songbook feature
2) TC Helicon Voice Live 2 Technolgy (supporting rootless chord recogntion)
2) Chord Sequencer
3) Shorter overall keyboard length
4) Punchy more agressive sound for a raw rock-club sound
5) Physical Sliders
6) Covenient to snap on/off speaker monitors

One major feature limitation concern is Pa3x's support for only 2 footswitches. I require a minimum of three: sustain, fill, and vocal harmony on/off.

Soundwise, I haven't yet heard any new instrument voices or styles dramaticalky different or improved over Pa2x so hope to hear demos from Korg to showcase them. That said, as a happy satisfied Tyros 4 owner, I still can appreciate owning a Korg Pa3x too, for its punchy live sound and advanced features. cool

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#312829 - 01/17/11 12:40 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Great new sound I hope. This one is still a ? for me as the demos so far have been terrible.
I need to hear all the sounds that I use/like either in person or a quality demo. I hope some quality demos come soon.
Sax, Piano, E-piano, guitars, Oboe, Strings of different kinds, Solo violin, claranet, french horns, other horns, trombone (slide), flutes, cornet, harp, vocals...etc...etc...really all orchstral voices, and especially the ensembles of these orchestral voices together. Of course many others, but I need great instrumental voices as I do not sing.

Also, 4 fills (and autofill) and break on every style...hooray! Hopefully much smoother style engine (play) will result.

I think I read somewhere the screen is a better quality too??

Lees S.
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#312830 - 01/17/11 12:42 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
leeboy Offline
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Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Scott,
All you have to do is buy an inexpensive EC-5 pedal unit and then you will have 7 foot switchs all freely programmable!
PA800/PA2 has that today as well.

Lee S.
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#312831 - 01/17/11 12:43 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: Scottyee]
Saswick Offline
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Registered: 01/05/01
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Loc: Garstang, Preston, Lancashire,...
Hi Scottyee

If you use the korg EC5 pedal you can damper, variable pedal (Pitchbend, volumr etc etc)

and 5 switchs fully assignable to a host of functions.

Kind regards

Col

PS: Sorry Lee you beat me to it.


Edited by Saswick (01/17/11 12:45 PM)

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#312836 - 01/17/11 02:12 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Korg EC5 5-Switch Pedalboard

Leeboy & Saswick: This is great! thanks for the heads up. smile

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#312838 - 01/17/11 02:29 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
I can't run my G70 without an FC-7. At minimum, even for live playing, I need sustain separate for upper and lower, Leslie F/S, UPG advance, etc., and for arranger playing I use the 1-4 switches to change variations, and two sustains and a Leslie F/S.

At times, I can go whole songs without taking my hands from the keyboard... Nirvana!

You can't have TOO many footswitches!
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#312846 - 01/17/11 02:48 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: Diki]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Originally Posted By: Diki
I can't run my G70 without an FC-7. At minimum, even for live playing, I need sustain separate for upper and lower, Leslie F/S, UPG advance, etc., and for arranger playing I use the 1-4 switches to change variations, and two sustains and a Leslie F/S.

At times, I can go whole songs without taking my hands from the keyboard... Nirvana!

You can't have TOO many footswitches!



I agree..pedals are a must for me too...in a little different way than Diki is using...

I always need the sustain pedal, and EV-5 for expression..I also need a pedal (switch) for vocal harmony on and off..with the G70..

I do like the FC-7, but it is a bit awkward to carry and placement is a problem, sometimes..
The individual pedals allow me to locate them where I need them...although they walk away during performances..
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#312852 - 01/17/11 03:00 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
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Yep I agree, this is why I was hoping for a second assignable pedal. I do own an EC5 pedal but find that sometimes placement is an issue, And a lot of the time, I only need a pedal for the harmoniser.

I also need space for my Bluetooth page turner for the long charts I use. Not many, but I still need it.

What I would say is you cannot have "Too Many" footswitch input jacks on a keyboard smile

Dennis

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#312856 - 01/17/11 03:04 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I have a Ketron foot controller and a Roland foot controller, neither of which will work on Korg or Yamaha. Yamaha's is too big and heavy. If I really get interested enough in PAX3, maybe I can swap somebody.
I can get by with the 3 inputs on Tyros, but I really like about four or five. You need sustain, vocal harmony, break, and text page for sure. More than five, and my size 13 feet can't find them without looking.
DonM
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#312863 - 01/17/11 03:25 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: DonM]
Diki Offline


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Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Fran, if you are suffering pedal 'creep', can I suggest you stick a couple of the 'hook' parts of a 'Heavy Duty Velcro' (the kind where BOTH sides are hard plastic) strip on the underside of the FC-7... That's carpet taken care of.

Then, that plastic, semi-sticky 'shelf liner' material you can buy in rolls from any kitchen store to stop your utensils from rolling about or to hold plates from sliding, this stuff works VERY well on a variety of hard surfaces, from linoleum to tile to brick. You can either cut a piece to the same size as the FC-7, or carry a roll big enough to put under your entire key rig, then NOTHING creeps around much.

That all plastic Velcro has MANY uses, and if you prepare the surface before sticking it on (a little solvent or detergent to get rid of ALL dirt and grease) is capable of incredible strength, if needed. I used to be able to pick up a fairly heavy WS by the little drum machine velcroed to its top, back in the day. That stuff is amazing!
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#312865 - 01/17/11 03:28 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Oh, and for those with the 'wrong' footpedal, most of those are simple switches going to a multipin. You get a tech friend to replace the jack with the correct type for your new arranger, and get the pin assignments right, you can recycle your old pedalboard (fairly) easily....
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#312878 - 01/17/11 05:25 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Yep...and even better make a short crossover/patch cable that you can plug ito the existing pedal then to the new board...that way your not modifying it, then...when you change your mind again :-) you can still use it on the old brand you wish you hadn't sold :-)

Lee S.
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#312883 - 01/17/11 07:02 PM Re: The main reasons to get a PA 3x [Re: jamman]
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Jamman,
regrettably the lack of 4 fills wassn't the only drawback in converting Yamaha styles . For me the Yamaha drum mapping caused far more problems. Luv to see some XG mapped drum sets. And then there's the mega voices. Hopefuly 3rd party style writers, create some simplified styles.

[quote=jamman]Kog did their home work and apperently fixed their previous complaints.


The main reaons to get a PA 3x (for me are)

1. 4 fills plus break (all Yamaha style library will be converted by the Korg 3 rd party support /users - The main complaint from previous Yamaha has 4 fills and auto fill button and Korg did not. If this works, Korg may steal a lot of other brand users).Since Yamaha has alot of simple straight foward styles for Western music (not country). Converted Yamaha styles (Irish Acts website) suffered for above mentioned reasons. This issue will be solved with PA 3x.
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