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#284647 - 04/06/10 07:02 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
Tonewheeldude Offline
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Originally posted by FransN:
Yes and I think if you like these Ketron drums you also could use a Korg PA500/800 or Yamaha PSR 900/910 in combination with a Ketron SD2 and you will have the same if not better results for a fraction of the price a Audya cost.


you would only get fraction of the sound too.

The live drum loops on the sd2 are just that...loops.

those on the Audya are 16 bars per arranger part total 64 bars of unlooped drumming for most styles..then you have intro's, endings, fills and break.

not even mentioning the other aspects (guitars and bass)

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#284648 - 04/06/10 07:10 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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No matter what the Audya sounds like.....price, service & support are the three things that making people hesitant in a purchase.

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#284649 - 04/06/10 07:19 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
you would only get fraction of the sound too.

The live drum loops on the sd2 are just that...loops.

those on the Audya are 16 bars per arranger part total 64 bars of unlooped drumming for most styles..then you have intro's, endings, fills and break.

not even mentioning the other aspects (guitars and bass)



Does the Ketron have SA or DNC sounds. I don't think so. Korg have styles up to 32 bars. The Audya is just too expensive for what it gives you. Not much IMO.

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#284650 - 04/06/10 07:21 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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Originally posted by Dnj:
No matter what the Audya sounds like.....price, service & support are the three things that making people hesitant in a purchase.


excuse me....I happen to work for the company that imports Ketron into the UK.

Ketron Italy have been superb in all aspects of service and support and have helped us here with our initial lack of knowledge when we took over distribution at the end or 2008. They have helped diagnose very complex issues on older models by phone and email and continue to do so. I could give you many examples.

If anyone has a problem with support then they need to take this up with the retailer or the company distributing..not Ketron themselves. If the retailer or distributor behaves badly, only then should you contact Ketron Italy.

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#284651 - 04/06/10 07:30 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
cgiles Offline
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
Another thread changed into an Audya topic.



Uh, did you happen to notice the title of this thread?

??????

chas
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#284652 - 04/06/10 07:30 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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Originally posted by cgiles:
I had perked up initially because I thought Ketron had finally introduced some styles that I could warm up to..


But.....but.....but how do you know it's not a sequence recorded of an onboard style? How do you know the guy didn't take an internal Audya style, hit the record button, make all the appropriate chord changes that then allowed him to play it back and freed up both hands to lay down his lead groove?

I thought it was an great display of internal sounds, very good playing, and COOL, you can use live drums in midi files!

(just offering another opinion.........)

-mike

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#284653 - 04/06/10 07:35 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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Originally posted by msutliff:
But.....but.....but how do you know it's not a sequence recorded of an onboard style? How do you know the guy didn't take an internal Audya style, hit the record button, make all the appropriate chord changes that then allowed him to play it back and freed up both hands to lay down his lead groove?

I thought it was an great display of internal sounds, very good playing, and COOL, you can use live drums in midi files!

(just offering another opinion.........)

-mike


I can do all that with BIAB.

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#284654 - 04/06/10 07:37 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
Tonewheeldude Offline
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Originally posted by FransN:
I can do all that with BIAB.


please...post a video similar to Roberts. would be great to see.

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#284655 - 04/06/10 07:39 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
FransN Offline
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Originally posted by Tonewheeldude:
please...post a video similar to Roberts. would be great to see.



No if I do that it is bad advertising for Ketron. But take a look at their website. A lot of demos with Real Band.

[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 04-06-2010).]

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#284656 - 04/06/10 07:41 AM Re: Robert Messier ROCKIN...AUDYA
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tonewheel

i think what WE are saying in general is that

WE the customers, or future customers don't get ant answers from Ketron,
only occasionally from AJ

i speak from experience as Ketron Italy fails to respond to many emails

we are not saying that the distrubutors or retailers dont get weel treated

and no offense, but WE like to hear things from the horses mouth,

all we are asking for is a little support, a liitle enlightenment,

even an answer like Steve Jobs from a regular guy who sent email inquiring when the new MBP would be out...

Jobs response..."Not To Worry..."

If Steve Jobs can take the time to answer "Joe", Ketron can too...

it would only benefit them in the longrun...

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