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#278993 - 01/10/10 09:11 AM What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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They haven't got the original thing right yet and they messing with something else, where are the straps to get it over your shoulder? God Dam it they are stupid!
Click on this and tell me it's a wind up, James is this your andy work on Photoshop again. Even Drumermix is brimming with respect for Ketron publishing something like this! There good for a laugh now!


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[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 01-10-2010).]
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#278994 - 01/10/10 09:17 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Tony, come'on, don't tell me you did not see this bad Photoshop image is not real?
It even written 'fake' at the bottom of the post
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#278995 - 01/10/10 09:22 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Tony, come'on, don't tell me you did not see this bad Photoshop image is not real?
It even written 'fake' at the bottom of the post


Jonny,

Yes I did but it open season now on Ketron, there are so many people having a go, even people close to Ketron are seeing the funny side of things, not me I am still smarting from the £4200.00 they have of mine!

Regards Jonny

Tony
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#278996 - 01/10/10 09:33 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Hey--

Anybody know where I could get me one of them Audya Accordians?

Heh.

Could actually be a hit in some places...


--Mac
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#278997 - 01/10/10 09:50 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Quote:
Originally posted by --Mac:

Could actually be a hit in some places...


You'll never know, this is something Ketron have done with other models, so why not Audya.
Myself I think I would prefer a module connected via midi to a real Accordeon.

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#278998 - 01/10/10 09:54 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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This may very well be a photoshop representation, but the product and concept is real. It is a midi controller that fits over most arranger keyboards, and is made or at least offered by Chromaticover, a Belgian Company ... you simply lay it on the keyboard, plug into the 'midi in' and away you go ... http://chromaticover.com/
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#278999 - 01/10/10 10:19 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
They haven't got the original thing right yet and they messing with something else, where are the straps to get it over your shoulder? God Dam it they are stupid!
Click on this and tell me it's a wind up, James is this your andy work on Photoshop again. Even Drumermix is brimming with respect for Ketron publishing something like this! There good for a laugh now!


http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/001350.html

[This message has been edited by Tony Hughes (edited 01-10-2010).]


There's the word "Fake" on the left of the picture and what's so stupid about it, Ketron makes cromatic boards, X, XD & SD all have one in there series. There nothing stupid about it, thers's accually a good size market for it in europe this type of keyboard. Maybe it not so popular in the old UK, but from portugal to the Italy they sell pretty well.

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#279000 - 01/10/10 12:50 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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This is not fake, Ketron has this for LOOONNGGG time n all their synths,
it is a Chromatic version, a lot of Balkan players use it.
It can be also Custom done, i already know a person with Audya like this.
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#279001 - 01/10/10 12:57 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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This idea is not new. Master Production has been making a controller like this since at least 2006:
http://www.master-production.com/acc_keyb.htm
For those who play accordion LH and don't want to modify their keyboard, it is a good option. -Ted

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#279002 - 01/10/10 02:37 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nedim:
This is not fake, Ketron has this for LOOONNGGG time n all their synths,
it is a Chromatic version, a lot of Balkan players use it.
It can be also Custom done, i already know a person with Audya like this.



Thats true, Solton allways had these things.. They are a typicall european thing, but they sell..

So i am pretty sure its not a fake, but very close to the truth.
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#279003 - 01/10/10 09:53 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by mc:
There's the word "Fake" on the left of the picture and what's so stupid about it, Ketron makes cromatic boards, X, XD & SD all have one in there series. There nothing stupid about it, thers's accually a good size market for it in europe this type of keyboard. Maybe it not so popular in the old UK, but from portugal to the Italy they sell pretty well.

[This message has been edited by mc (edited 01-10-2010).]


There u go MC I got it wrong, you are never too old to learn, but to me they look too much like a cash machine. Never thought that anyone would be able to pick it up and put around ones neck. Never mind were is OS4 now know as OS4.A with a capital A

Regards.A

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#279004 - 01/11/10 08:45 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Tony,
Although some of your posts are interesting, I find some of your language offensive. Would you please refrain from using the Lord's name in vain? The Bible says "God will not hold them guiltless who use His name in vain. I see that there are several other members who play praise and worship in their churches. So, I'm sure that I'm not the only one offended. There are many other ways to make your points without lowering the level of these posts by blaspheming the Lord. Thanks for your co-operation.
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#279005 - 01/11/10 10:15 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by genesis12:
Tony,
Although some of your posts are interesting, I find some of your language offensive. Would you please refrain from using the Lord's name in vain? The Bible says "God will not hold them guiltless who use His name in vain. I see that there are several other members who play praise and worship in their churches. So, I'm sure that I'm not the only one offended. There are many other ways to make your points without lowering the level of these posts by blaspheming the Lord. Thanks for your co-operation.
Gene


I am truly sorry if I have offended thee or anyone else for that matter, I never intended to use The Good Lords Name in vein, the UK use of word which my include things like this are much different in the UK than the USA thanks for pulling me up, will not let it happen again.

Regards

Tony
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#279006 - 01/11/10 02:14 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Personally, I would wait until the FORUM MODERATOR steps in, Tony, not some self appointed Mrs Grundy...

'Judge not, lest ye be judged' might be appropriate scripture, if we are bandying around the Bible to make our points...
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#279007 - 01/11/10 05:29 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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I made no efforts to judge anyone. I simply made a request from which Tony was kind enough to respond to in a very gracious manner. I am grateful that he chose to respond in the manner that he did. I would welcome any comments from the moderator. I don’t believe blasphemy or any kind of guttural language is appropriate in this forum or that it could add anything of value to the normal intelligent and enlightening opinions of the majority of respondents.
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#279008 - 01/11/10 10:08 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
Personally, I would wait until the FORUM MODERATOR steps in, Tony, not some self appointed Mrs Grundy...

'Judge not, lest ye be judged' might be appropriate scripture, if we are bandying around the Bible to make our points...


Diki,

I understand what you are saying, at 66 next personally I am not offended or surprised what anyone says nowadays to me ,at me or to others, I do however respect what others perceive I say, that’s why we need to put **** in between letters that would offend, however I would never think of putting G*D for God, I would not consider it necessary. What I typed offended and in respect I will not do it again. I know not of any parallel that I could think to explain this one away, so Diki let this one go now not for you but for me and the complainant please. I am sure there are lines in the bible that would counterclaim what I did because that's what the bibles all about, but please let it stop here, for me!

Best regards Diki

Tony
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#279009 - 01/12/10 12:44 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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My only comment would be that, if this self appointed moderator wants to perform his task, he needs to do it constantly and consistently for it to not appear biased. And, I must confess, I haven't seen this in any fashion so far.

Let me also add, I'm sorry, but haven't we seen enough evidence of what life on this planet can get like when religious fundamentalists take control to not tolerate it when we see it happen..?
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#279010 - 01/12/10 08:25 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:

Let me also add, I'm sorry, but haven't we seen enough evidence of what life on this planet can get like when religious fundamentalists take control ..?


Can't think of anything else that would cause thousands of people to want to riot and kill over some innocuous CARTOON published in some obscure newspaper.......and that's just a mild example.

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#279011 - 01/12/10 09:46 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:

Let me also add, I'm sorry, but haven't we seen enough evidence of what life on this planet can get like when religious fundamentalists take control to not tolerate it when we see it happen..?


WOW Diki,

Yes but perhaps not for this place on SZ, not for me anyway, I'm out on this one, they say lose friends with relegion and money, politics Oh and Ketron! I can see daylight shinning through the crack in the cooler door.

Regards

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#279012 - 01/12/10 12:33 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Wow, Chas and Diki! Sad, but true, (IMO).

R.

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#279013 - 01/12/10 12:36 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Tony, I understand your frustration with Ketron. As a long time player of the brand, I have issues with them, too. Mine are related to business ethics issues, and most people here know what they are.


Russ

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#279014 - 01/12/10 05:36 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Captain Russ

I had seen you mention something along these lines before in the past, but I did not quit understand exactly what happened between you and Ketron then. Could you please update me at axa130@hotmail.com so I can look into this matter further and know what non-ethical activity transpired between you and Ketron?

Thanks,

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#279015 - 01/12/10 08:08 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by captain Russ:
Tony, I understand your frustration with Ketron. As a long time player of the brand, I have issues with them, too. Mine are related to business ethics issues, and most people here know what they are.


Russ



Russ,

I am like AJ don't know about that, would it help if you let us all know again what it was. I think they have a real business ethics problem that is obvoius, but maybe there is more.

Regards

Tony
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#279016 - 01/13/10 08:24 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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The issue is direct sales to end users, intentionally bypassing established distribution...even making requests that dealers not be told of the "deal". That's an absolute "no no" in the distribution business. Ted knows about it. I called him. George knows about it, as do other current and former dealers and some long-time members here. They also know the individual involved and of other incidences, and have registered their concerns as I did.

That is so wrong in the distribution business that I basically paid more "used" than the "direct" price offered for my SD-5 and Midjay, and went to another manufacturer for two house pianos I was asked to procure.

I'm a big fan of the line, but am NOT a customer, given this situation.

I work with manufacturers around the world setting up channels of distribution, establishing territories, setting policies concerning sales credit for leads at trade shows, etc. As far as business ethics go, in most industries, even one incident like this would result in lines being dropped and staff members involved dismissed.

Russ



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#279017 - 01/13/10 11:10 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
Tony Hughes Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by captain Russ:
The issue is direct sales to end users, intentionally bypassing established distribution...even making requests that dealers not be told of the "deal". That's an absolute "no no" in the distribution business. Ted knows about it. I called him. George knows about it, as do other current and former dealers and some long-time members here. They also know the individual involved and of other incidences, and have registered their concerns as I did.

That is so wrong in the distribution business that I basically paid more "used" than the "direct" price offered for my SD-5 and Midjay, and went to another manufacturer for two house pianos I was asked to procure.

I'm a big fan of the line, but am NOT a customer, given this situation.

I work with manufacturers around the world setting up channels of distribution, establishing territories, setting policies concerning sales credit for leads at trade shows, etc. As far as business ethics go, in most industries, even one incident like this would result in lines being dropped and staff members involved dismissed.

Russ

[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 01-13-2010).]


I totally agree, why didn't all the distributors drop Ketron , this is a hanging offence surely.
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#279018 - 01/13/10 01:26 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Captain Russ is talking about CMC's business practices, Ketron's USA distributor.
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#279019 - 01/13/10 02:18 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Did Ketron drop CMC the SECOND they knew about it? If not, this is squarely on Ketron, not its' affiliates...
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#279020 - 01/13/10 03:24 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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how do we know for sure if Ketron even knows what happen?
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#279021 - 01/13/10 03:54 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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Maybe because they can read?
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#279022 - 01/13/10 04:27 PM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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We can't know for sure that they read this forum everyday, every month or even every year. I know something happened (bits and pieces) but I still don't know what exactly happen. I not sure if AJ even knows what exactly happened.

I'm not defending CMC, I really miss Bell Duvox, Aldo and Lou. They were very upstanding and helpful group of people. They had a showroom and repair center up in Nyack, NY. The customer can first. I have to say when the both retired and sold the business, I believe it hurt Ketron in the states.

If dealers really want to ketron to hear them about CMC pratices, they should be sending letters to Sandro directly in Italy.
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#279023 - 01/14/10 10:44 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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This was going on before CMC. Same person involved.


Russ

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#279024 - 01/14/10 10:49 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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I can't really say for sure but Lou and Aldo were always good to me with keyboard repairs, help, etc.

I can't speak ill of them.
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#279025 - 01/14/10 11:21 AM Re: What are Ketron up to now???
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I, too had a good relationship with Lou and crew!

Russ

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