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#262954 - 05/09/09 11:56 AM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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On the other hand, one doesn't actually have to PLAY something to comment about well known OS issues, or to listen to supplied demos and notice timing glitches, fills in Variations, and mismatched chords in the guitar part... Do you?

I don't believe the Audya is getting an unfair shake, but something this delayed in production, and this much more expensive than it's competition needs to be held to a higher standard. Just as we cut little slack to Wersi for their $6000+ arrangers that rarely sound as good as a T3 (or even my G70 ), we should be equally as sharp in discussing the Audya's shortcomings.

We have got to the point that user demos (I count Frank's in that category, too - he certainly isn't obfuscating the asked questions) are coming out, and we CAN 'hear for ourselves' what it sounds like... So far, other than the drums, IMO I am not hearing anything that a T3 or PA2X can't do (and either of those COULD load up drum audio loops and play them just like the Audya, if their owners could be bothered to do it).

Sure, it sounds good... so does a T3, so does a PA2Xpro. But is it $5000 good? So far, IMO, no... I'm still waiting for that "OMG! I have GOT to have one of these...!" moment.

So cut US a little slack... For what the Audya initially promised, for the price point it has arrived at, I think we are cutting it as much slack as any other arranger's launch. I DEFINITELY remember the T3 getting as blunt an assessment during it's launch...
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#262955 - 05/09/09 11:58 AM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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Oh, BTW, remember Donny is the guy that dumped every Ketron he ever bought...
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#262956 - 05/09/09 12:18 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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Registered: 11/24/99
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I love the drama!!!!

Yes there are bugs and issues, I never said there wasn't. Will they be fixed, I hope so!!!

I do feel its a bit raw, and there's a lot for the OS to fix, but 98% can be fixed by software.

The couple that I sold loved all the features, the dual seperate mics and line in (saved them a mixer) the wav/mp3 with crossfade (saved them the laptop media player)

Or a vocalizer mic pre that actually works ( can't remember who is on their 4th or 5th try and is still sub par
Now these are specific situations for those gentlemen

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#262957 - 05/09/09 12:32 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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So they buy an arranger that is a good $1500 more than other arrangers, to save them having to buy or use a sub-$200 mixer to combine two mikes...?

And a dual MP3 player is on the PA2Xpro at $1500 less, also.

Must be nice to win the Lottery...
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#262958 - 05/09/09 12:33 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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#262959 - 05/09/09 12:36 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Milford, CT, USA
Let's say $150 mixer
$500 simple DJ set-up
$3400 arranger

Your at $4050, now minus set-up and break down time, stage clutter,

It's not that far off, but everyone has their reasons, I'm sure everyone out there has bought things that most people wouldn't second guess, it's whatever works for you
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#262960 - 05/09/09 12:39 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
GlennT Offline
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Registered: 12/01/02
Posts: 1790
Loc: Medina, OH, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
On the other hand, one doesn't actually have to PLAY something to comment


Right, only to know what they're talking about.

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#262961 - 05/09/09 12:40 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by frankieve:
Yes there are bugs and issues, I never said there wasn't.


No Frank, you never have. Sadly, it is all the fanboys, who have just as low a time on the Audya as any of the rest of us who seem to want to berate anybody for bringing these issues to the forefront. But at least they seem to cut YOU a bit more slack than most of us when pointing these bugs out (lucky S.O.B! ).

Sooner or later, they are going to have to address these issues. I guess pure optimism makes some people want to do it 'later', or maybe not at all... and get snippy at those that want to do it NOW

None so blind as those that don't WANT to see...
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#262962 - 05/09/09 12:42 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
So they buy an arranger that is a good $1500 more than other arrangers, to save them having to buy or use a sub-$200 mixer to combine two mikes...?

And a dual MP3 player is on the PA2Xpro at $1500 less, also.

Must be nice to win the Lottery...


I guess if they feel Audya sounds better, than yes, they pay the extra money
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#262963 - 05/09/09 12:42 PM Re: Ketron Audya Beta OS 2.?
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Registered: 07/17/01
Posts: 870
Loc: New York
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
So they buy an arranger that is a good $1500 more than other arrangers, to save them having to buy or use a sub-$200 mixer to combine two mikes...?

And a dual MP3 player is on the PA2Xpro at $1500 less, also.

Must be nice to win the Lottery...


Yeah, but it will never sound as good as a Ketron... and I'm not even talking about the Audya.
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