Originally posted by adimatis:

is this a tricky question?

Yes!!

Actually, more than to comments on the songs themselves (that are always welcome... thank you Zuki, Ian, Steve and Tony! ) I am interested to comments on the sounds and especially... the groove...

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give us a clue! is this keyboard listed bellow your posts in the other forum? or is it a surprise keyboard?

Adimatis,
yes, it's a keyboard I already had, but in a sense now it's entirely new... can you guess why?

BTW, you have a very good ear and the reference to 1'37 of "El Negro Zumbon" is correct, but something happens also at 57" and no... they are not sliders moving, but instead something else being triggered...

Here is another clue: use your ear and try to guess what happens at 42" and then at 2'16" of Desafinado.
Here is a question to help you: how does the bossa nova style sound? Canned or not? And why?

Another suggestion: try to concentrate on the single elements of the two songs:
1- the style
2- the instruments used (namely the piano, the tenor and soprano sax, the acoustic guitar): do they remind you of something you are familiar with?
Based on these elements, some of you already guessed right, but the truth is somewhat more complex...

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Is it the Korg with some sampling?

Or are you using the Korg to trigger the T2 as well?

I think El_negro_Zumbon is a korg, not to sure since I'm not to up on the new pa800/PA2X sound.

Dreamer, What happened to the ketron you had, do you still use any ketrons?

OK, PA2X with added pads as the song progresses?

OK Andrea ... time's up ... inquiring minds want to KNOW !!! ......
t.

OK; for all you enquiring minds here is the answer: it is indeed the Korg PA2X Pro, but with multipads added as the song progresses (kudos to Zuki but also to Ian, Steve, Diki, mc and Adimatis, for spotting the points where one of the multipads -a conga pattern- kicked in).

These songs are important to me because for the first time I was able to reap the fruits of my work on the PA2. I have indeed spent the past months filling up its RAM with my favorite sounds and loops and the selection took even more time than the sampling phase itself.
Speaking of the loops, I can testify that they really make a difference; of course one must be careful not to overdo the effect and balance the volumes well, but they do work. In Desafinado (for which I used a converted G-70 style: kudos to Mikey_Maestro) the style begins in the usual "stiff" way, but then at 42" there is a shaker loop starting to play and the song takes a bit of life and finally takes off at 2'15", when I added another shaker and also a conga loop.
One VERY important consequence is that playing with a non canned backing like this makes you play with more inspiration, so this is really a case where the keyboard helps the player.

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mc
yes, I had an SD1 and a Midjay but I sold both time ago. I really love the concept of sampled rhythmic loops and have tried to replicate these in my PA2X Pro.
I am currently waiting with interest the Audya, to see if it will keep its promises; otherwise I could buy a Midjay plus or an SD3, just to have that Ketron sound again.