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#244269 - 10/16/08 08:06 PM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
Kingfrog Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
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Loc: Myrtle beach SC
Quote:
Originally posted by rattley:
"George... You can't easily re-voice a style or SMF within the T3? You HAVE to use external software "

Is Tyros3 different than Tyros2? I've revoiced hundreds of songs live on Tyros2. I always thought it was easy? -charley


I revoiced a few SMFs today however.......I failed to find a way to SAVE them with the new voices. What am I missing?
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#244270 - 10/20/08 01:41 PM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
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Registered: 01/14/05
Posts: 318
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob Hendershot:
Tim, John is right. The KN7000 is unique and was well ahead of it's time.I still can't find improvements in ANY keyboard that would make me want to leave the KN7000.


Was the KN7000 the keyboard that had that built in hinged cover?What made it ahead of it's time bob?

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#244271 - 10/20/08 05:33 PM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
Bob Hendershot Offline
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Registered: 12/02/99
Posts: 924
Loc: Johnson City, TN USA
As I said, the keyboard that is right for you, is a personal thing. Yes the KN7000 has a hinged cover and a keyboard that many didn’t like because you could bang into the end of the keyboard if you were used to more keys because it was “sunken” somewhat. But, no keyboard at that time had the sequencer editing stuff that the KN7000 has. It is easy to make multiple recordings, editing tracks, copying tracks, merging tracks, punching in where you want etc., etc. You can add, delete, move, change duration or timing, or velocity, of notes within the sequence. Possibilities for editing are almost endless. Then after you have the recording the way you want it, you can connect to a PC via USB and transfer the recording to the PC in digital form (.wav format) directly. There is no need for old-fashioned analog recording. The KN7000 also contains removable flash memory (SD Card) for song setups and/or sequences. Voicing is a subjective thing and what one person thinks is great may sound awful to someone else. I have always been pleased with Technics voicing and especially the ability to edit any sound of the keyboard in most any way that I like, creating my own new sounds. To my knowledge, no keyboard has a display that compares to the large display of the KN7000. All of this stuff was available before the Tyros 2 was released.

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#244272 - 10/20/08 06:26 PM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
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What year was this 7000 Bob?I'm under the impression the 7000 was pre 2000's and yet it had a USB?

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#244273 - 10/20/08 07:25 PM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
Bob Hendershot Offline
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Registered: 12/02/99
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Loc: Johnson City, TN USA
The KN7000 was released in 2002.

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#244274 - 07/15/10 12:52 AM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
broadbandace Offline
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Registered: 07/14/10
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
... Another factor (probably over-looked) is the build quality of the T3 versus the others. It wasn't surprising when I looked under my units (4 that were sent in from Germany with 1 being returned) and found out that they were all made in .... JAPAN !!! Are those that are being sold in the US also made in Japan (George, please confirm)?

GREAT!!!!

That might explain why ...
* The screen has equal brightness from left to right, top to bottom (unlike most T2s were it was sometimes uneven) - which could be why the LCD contrast button has been eliminated?
* The keybed feels more sturdy (try wiggling keys from left to right - then do the same on the T2 or T1).
* Internal components - you can now (by switching 2 wires) change the voltage required between 110v (US) and 220v (World).
* USB sockets wired directly to CPU board versus previous extra circuit boards.
* Better ventilation on power circuit boards.
* etc ...

... Then again, all Tyros' were designed in Japan so it could just be modifications in many instances due to what was learned and researched in the field by the previous models (as many manufacturers do). However, beign designed in Japan and built with Japanese components using Japanese Labor is a HUGE difference as opposed to designed in Japan and built in ... e.g. China?

Either way, the build quiality of the T3, the SA1 and SA2 voices plus the extra control capability (Art1 & Art2) offered to control these from the panel (rather than only via the footswich) are great improvements. I however reserve my personal views on the "Arranger aspects" and features - especially drums and bass!!


Hi Ketron_AJ,

This posting from back in October 2008 states that the working voltage can be changed from 110v to 220v by switching 2 wires.

I just bought a T3 on Ebay from a seller in Ohio and had it shipped to a friend in Phoenix AZ who I was scheduled to visit. I brought the keyboard backt o the UK with me on the flight home but have not yet had it powered up in the UK because I have seen conflicting advice on various forums about whether the T3 is 'dual voltage'.

My T3 was made in Japan but states 110v 60Hz on the bottom and when I contacted Yamaha UK about this they said I should NOT plug it into a 220v supply without using a transformer to step down to 110v.

I have had the cover off the T3 and the Power Board says 250v next to the connection from the mains plug.

Can I ask where you got the information about 'moving 2 wires' and which 2 wires are supposed to be moved to switch from 110v to 220v.

Peter Hawkins
York England
tyros@uk12.net

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#244275 - 07/15/10 08:36 AM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
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Peter,

I had made a correction on this posting. The switching of 2 wires was in reference to the Ketron SD1/SD1Plus and not the Tyros 3.

In the Tyros 3 (as you did see for yourself), the power board does take 240v. However, depending on which country these get shipped to originally, the company labels the voltage of that unit to correspond to the voltage in that country. It is easier these days for them to use one power supply board on all keyboards within the same series than separate ones. The fuse is what might need to be changed.

(From my point of view now) such labelling also helps prevent trans-atlantic retail trade.
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#244276 - 07/16/10 03:58 AM Re: Tyros 3 First Impressions
broadbandace Offline
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Registered: 07/14/10
Posts: 2
Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Peter,

I had made a correction on this posting. The switching of 2 wires was in reference to the Ketron SD1/SD1Plus and not the Tyros 3.

In the Tyros 3 (as you did see for yourself), the power board does take 240v. However, depending on which country these get shipped to originally, the company labels the voltage of that unit to correspond to the voltage in that country. It is easier these days for them to use one power supply board on all keyboards within the same series than separate ones. The fuse is what might need to be changed.

(From my point of view now) such labelling also helps prevent trans-atlantic retail trade.


Thanks for the clarification. I have ordered a 100w transformer recommended on another bulletin board by someone who had shipped his Tyros from USA for a gig in Romania. This seemed to be the safest way to proceed.

Peter

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