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#243435 - 09/28/08 10:21 AM Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Check out this new song Manny has put up on singsnap, Green Grass of Home, long a favorite of mine by clicking on URL below.
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/bd123fc05
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#243436 - 09/28/08 06:40 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Very Nice Manny....!
Close your eyes and Elvis is in the house!!

Good Job

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#243437 - 09/29/08 05:22 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Manny,

Sounds good, I also hear a bit of Tom Jones.

Thanks for sharing.

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#243438 - 09/29/08 09:42 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Nice job, Manny ...
Just one question - How much do you try to sound like Elvis, or is it just your natural voice and style?

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#243439 - 09/29/08 10:50 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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First of all thanks for all the comments, As for trying to sound like Elvis, in this song, yes i tried. normally i don't have to try, and some times try to get out of sounding like him on various songs by other artists. getting my Korg M3 in a weeks time and can't wait to mess with and get some music down to share with you all. tks again. manny

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#243440 - 09/29/08 12:58 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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That a karaoke track?
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#243441 - 09/29/08 01:52 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by memanny:
First of all thanks for all the comments, As for trying to sound like Elvis, in this song, yes i tried. normally i don't have to try, and some times try to get out of sounding like him on various songs by other artists. getting my Korg M3 in a weeks time and can't wait to mess with and get some music down to share with you all. tks again. manny



Any songs on your site that you didn't try to sound like him?
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#243442 - 09/29/08 02:00 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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The spoken part is far too "happy". The story is a sad one, and you should hear the disappointment in the voice when he realizes he was only dreaming, and that he's not back home, but still in the prison, waiting to be executed at daybreak.

I didn't hear that at all. As if you never knew what you were telling with this song.

And while I'm being the negative pain in the butt already, I'd like to add that you should be careful not to get too far ahead. Elvis' timing was legendary, and just singing the words 2/4 of a bar too early doesn't make it right.
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#243443 - 09/29/08 07:48 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Manny don't let all these Superstars bother you......your doing fine & your infectious excitement about making music is a wonderful thing & I'm sure your audiences appreciate it big time.. Don't let anyone kill your dream....Go for it with reckless abandon full speed ahead!!

Thanks for sharing your work

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#243444 - 09/30/08 04:06 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Manny don't let all these Superstars bother you......


So it's a bad thing if someone makes a remark about a recording? Suddenly I consider myself a Superstar just because I am not slapping Manny on the back - because I don't think it's that good?

I can't play the violin. Not a single note. But if someone plays on a bad tuned violin, or plays in a way that makes the violin sound bad, I *know* it's bad.

You don't have to be able to do it any better, to be allowed to say anything if you don't like it.

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#243445 - 09/30/08 05:00 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Every wonder why people here only talk about music & never post anything
I think you've answered your own question.

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#243446 - 09/30/08 05:17 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Manny don't let all these Superstars bother you......your doing fine & your infectious excitement about making music is a wonderful thing & I'm sure your audiences appreciate it big time.. Don't let anyone kill your dream....Go for it with reckless abandon full speed ahead!!

Thanks for sharing your work




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#243447 - 09/30/08 05:34 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Ian hope your felling better now.....good to see you posting again.

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#243448 - 09/30/08 06:24 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Ian hope your felling better now.....good to see you posting again.


Doing great, Donny...just making some CDs .

All I need is my S900 and a laptop...so cool!

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#243449 - 09/30/08 06:41 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Every wonder why people here only talk about music & never post anything
I think you've answered your own question.


So you assume people will only post to get standing ovations? Weird. I would think it helps you more to get comments that would help you improve.

Maybe my tone in this case was "harsh", but I just didn't think it was good. I could have just said "Hey that wasn't good", instead I told Manny what I think could be improved.

But I guess I should lie and tell Manny what a world-class performance this was? That, or just shut up?

I'll answer that question myself too.

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#243450 - 09/30/08 06:46 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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How many of us in our younger more stupid days "smoked" the green grass of home?

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#243451 - 09/30/08 09:03 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Tom Cavanaugh:
How many of us in our younger more stupid days "smoked" the green grass of home?

Tom


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#243452 - 09/30/08 10:11 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Burkels:
The spoken part is far too "happy". The story is a sad one, and you should hear the disappointment in the voice when he realizes he was only dreaming, and that he's not back home, but still in the prison, waiting to be executed at daybreak.

I didn't hear that at all. As if you never knew what you were telling with this song.

And while I'm being the negative pain in the butt already, I'd like to add that you should be careful not to get too far ahead. Elvis' timing was legendary, and just singing the words 2/4 of a bar too early doesn't make it right.


Burkels - I think what came across, to use your word, harsh was the declarative nature of your comments.

All of this feedback is pure opinion. I may agree with your comments, or I may not - but you could've basically expressed exactly the thoughts in a slightly nicer way.

You can be as dramatic as you wish, or as you say, you could also lie and write things you don't mean or you could just shut-up...all of which seems a little silly, when just choosing a slightly different tone would probably make all this sideshow stuff go by the wayside...

Cheers


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#243453 - 09/30/08 11:36 AM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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"One toke over the line...", er, I mean, I somked "a little" in my day, too.

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#243454 - 09/30/08 12:37 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:
You can be as dramatic as you wish, or as you say, you could also lie and write things you don't mean or you could just shut-up...all of which seems a little silly, when just choosing a slightly different tone would probably make all this sideshow stuff go by the wayside...


It may be a good idea for some people in this forum to keep in mind that not all members have English as a native tongue. It might be a good idea to keep that in mind if you think someone had a bad choice of words. It may be a good idea to take into consideration that not all of us can express themselves in English the way you would do yourself. My "tone of voice" is for a great part defined by the knowledge I have of the language. Sometimes that's too formal, sometimes too 'direct', I may even get it "just right" every now and then.

Just like I don't expect foreigners to speak Dutch in all its nuances fluently, I'd like to be "cut the same slack" here as a non-English forum member.

Written language is "dangerous" enough already, allowing for mis-interpretation of words, meanings... if you add "lost in translation"-meanings to that, you get misunderstood quite easily.

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but you could've basically expressed exactly the thoughts in a slightly nicer way.


Well maybe I could not. :-)

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#243455 - 09/30/08 12:53 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Not everyone's society likes to sugar coat their words like they do in America, it's true... even allowing for translation difficulties, there is the question of national conversation styles.

Of course, due to the insular nature of American society (most of them couldn't even tell you what the capital of Belgium is, or what languages are spoken there), they have little idea that people in other parts of the world don't necessarily beat around the bush as much as we do here.

All one has to do is look at our political system, and our politicians to get a handle on that, though!

Y'all have a nice day, now, y'hear...!

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#243456 - 09/30/08 01:44 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Burkels has a surprisingly good command of English, which, to him, is a second language. His command of the English language is actually better than that of some of our regular contributors.

He is articulate and to the point. I'm glad he is a contributor.

I don't personally see anything too abrupt or lacking in civility in his post. He's entitled to his opinion and has expressed it well.


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#243457 - 09/30/08 02:15 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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I wouldn't be surprised if Manny never makes another post on SZ again after reading this stuff.All he ever did was show his passion for music and got SLAMMED for it big time. Who are we to judge anything in any language for that matter?

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#243458 - 09/30/08 02:24 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Burkels has such a good command of the English language that it never occurred to me he wasn't from the US. Clearly, I missed that...

Not sure what was so inflammatory in my posting. I suggested what I thought the issue might be, how it could've been avoided and then commented on Burkels statement (which I thought was a little dramatic) about either lying and saying it was nice or just shutting up.

Its odd to me Burkels himself used the word "harsh" to describe his comments but now the onus seems to be on the readers to cut him some slack because of his language difference.

This is all about being a little nicer in our comments...



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#243459 - 09/30/08 02:28 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Diki:
Not everyone's society likes to sugar coat their words like they do in America, it's true... even allowing for translation difficulties, there is the question of national conversation styles.

Of course, due to the insular nature of American society (most of them couldn't even tell you what the capital of Belgium is, or what languages are spoken there), they have little idea that people in other parts of the world don't necessarily beat around the bush as much as we do here.

All one has to do is look at our political system, and our politicians to get a handle on that, though!

Y'all have a nice day, now, y'hear...!


That's nonsense, Diki...

The politicians certainly don't speak/communicate like most Americans do. When our wives, for example catch us doing something stupid, do they mince words or are they pretty direct?

One man's sugar coating may be another man's use of good manners.

That said, I do offer an apology for this apparent hijacking of a fine musical thread. Manny...keep em coming, pal....



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#243460 - 09/30/08 05:13 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by Dnj:
I wouldn't be surprised if Manny never makes another post on SZ again after reading this stuff.All he ever did was show his passion for music and got SLAMMED for it big time. Who are we to judge anything in any language for that matter?


Donny ... "SLAMMED for it big time" ?!?!?
Perhaps a slight overstatement on your part?

I believe I read ONE negative post and a number of posts in support of manny ...
The rest of this thread has been commentary on 'Burkels' opinion and how it was stated, and Cap'n Russ' reminiscing about how he used to mow the grass or something like that in his younger days ...

Compared to the critical reviews others have endured, I see no reason why manny shouldn't continue to post his music here ... I would say that most of us are enjoying it ... Plus, he (and others like myself) might pick up a pointer or two when there is some 'constructive criticism' shared ...

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#243461 - 09/30/08 05:16 PM Re: Green Grass of Home recorded by Manny
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
Donny ... "SLAMMED for it big time" ?!?!?
Perhaps a slight overstatement on your part?

I believe I read ONE negative post and a number of posts in support of manny ...
The rest of this thread has been commentary on 'Burkels' opinion and how it was stated, and Cap'n Russ' reminiscing about how he used to mow the grass or something like that in his younger days ...

Compared to the critical reviews others have endured, I see no reason why manny shouldn't continue to post his music here ... I would say that most of us are enjoying it ... Plus, he (and others like myself) might pick up a pointer or two when there is some 'constructive criticism' shared ...

t.



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