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#235309 - 06/05/08 06:52 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Ian ....what ever works for you, I personally think its too boring after a while just listening to just Organ/pedals, I use it all in my shows & hope to add more as it is introduced.....BTW those are originally Yamaha styles edited no? or did you create them ALL from scratch track by track, variation & Intro/Endings?

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#235310 - 06/05/08 07:15 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Originally posted by Dnj:
BTW those are originally Yamaha styles edited no? or did you create them ALL from scratch track by track, variation & Intro/Endings?


Of course they are edited styles, Donny...what would I want with making them from scratch?

I'm lazy, for one thing, and the parts from other styles are already correct in regards to note limits, and NTR, NTT and RTR.

I play my own intros and endings over the style...don't want canned ones.

My edited styles are different enough to give me my own sound...that's all I want.

By the way...how do you make styles?

Ian
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#235311 - 06/05/08 08:24 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
By the way...how do you make styles?

Ian


make styles?.....Ian I make great music

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#235312 - 06/05/08 08:26 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Originally posted by Dnj:
make styles?.....Ian I make great music



That's true, Donny, you are fine singer and performer...the best on SZ in my opinion.

Ian
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#235313 - 06/05/08 08:34 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Ian ......I just do my job & do it to the best of my experience & abilities...
Thank you....your no slouch either my Northern friend!! I love your work & arrangements.

Carry on!

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#235314 - 06/05/08 09:10 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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And Simon Cowell would write both of you off as a load of rubbish. Just like all the rest of us that play these ghastly things.

We're all living on borrowed time as he has made it clear that when he becomes Prime Minister/President he will ban them.

Don't bother with the T3 Yamaha. You won't be allowed to sell them. If you're gonna throw them away I willing to take one (or 2) off your hands.

Trevor

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#235315 - 06/05/08 09:13 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Originally posted by trevorjohn:
And Simon Cowell would write both of you off as a load of rubbish. Just like all the rest of us that play these ghastly things.


Good one, Trevor!

Our music is much better than it sounds!
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#235316 - 06/05/08 11:12 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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When did assembling styles out of other already created styles (by other people) become 'creating our own styles'?

If I did this with an SMF, it would be 'editing' a commercial SMF. Since when did doing the same thing to a style become 'creation'?!

I know that even doing this is rare amongst arranger players, but I'm sure that someone that makes styles from scratch is sitting around going 'he just took some of my work, and some of someone else's, and now he's calling it CREATING a style?? '

Perhaps we ought to start calling it 'editing' our own styles, just to distinguish between those that actually DO create their own styles, and those that edit other's..?

I certainly wouldn't want to claim that an edited commercial SMF (or any third party one), no matter HOW much better I make it, is 'created' by me...
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#235317 - 06/05/08 11:26 AM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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Originally posted by Diki:
When did assembling styles out of other already created styles (by other people) become 'creating our own styles'?

Since when did doing the same thing to a style become 'creation'?!



Hey, Frankenstein used spare parts to make his "creation".

Whatever ever gets the job done..."editing" or, more accurately "assembling" is probably the best term to describe what I do with styles.

Ian Stein
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#235318 - 06/05/08 12:42 PM Re: Spot;ight on Brett Wales
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We all make changes to our styles, levels, FX, sounds, assembly, record new parts, that's what an arranger is for....these are features nobody talks about within the workings inside these wonderful instruments. Everyone just wants their styles to sound good out of the box without the work to MAKE SOUND GREAT. Its all in there take a look Originally you cant say its your own, but you can certainly Make it to your satisfaction thru tweaking & editing in so many ways if needed. This is why the manual is never enough & quality Instructional DVDS need to me made available for EACH feature in depth in an easily to understand format for all to learn from. Some really good ones on the Pa800 were made which is a step in the right direction for sure.....now if they would all follow suit with extensive DVD workshops at affordable prices for all to view. but , HEY, Wait a minute, then you would learn your keyboard TOO well & fall in love with it and NEVER want to get rid of it & companies won't make any money on new Models Hmmmmmmmmm ?



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