Are there any keyboards that have next to their arrangers also a good working appegiator?

I saw some awesome demos of the Arpeggiator in the new Motif range from yamaha... they have over 4000 different arpegios preprogrammed and more then half of them follow chord changes..
This way they could easilly be added to your autoaccompaniment as extra riffs following your chords(which can bring some nice changes when improvising jazz )...or just as arpegio's for a more Deejay like modern playstyle..

I almost forgot how much fun it can be to play arround with a good arpeggiator.


So are there any top arranger keyboards with build in arpegiators ?

Are there any software arpeggiators that can do things like the Motif arpeggiator ? (preferably vst's as i might wanna run them on my PC in accompany to my keyboard)

The PA800 doesn't have an arpeggiator, but it has some pads that kind of do the same thing while following chords. Not sure if anyone has developed 3rd party pads that will do this.

Yamaha MM6

Which isn't an arranger...is it?

A number of Yamaha Arrangers have PADS, these act similar to an Arpeggiator and follow chord changes. All 4 PADS can be activated if required.
I use PADS a lot to give variation to a style.

Does the new Audya have this capability?
Curious

Bill

I'm not clear what the difference is between arpeggiator (responding to chords) & style?
What distinguishes them? Isn't a style a coordinated collection of arpeggios (or pads)?
If a keyboard has styles, doesn't it by defintion have arpeggiators?

John

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Arpegios can also be more static and not follow the chord played. Next to that the deffinition of an arpegio is a string of single notes...

[And then there is the evolution of Arpeggio's which is Karma...]

But you are correct if you say that a style is like a drumtrack with some arpegio's played allong...

There is a thin line between these things..

Actually, there is only one real arranger keyboard with real arpeggiator included that I know of, and it's not top of the line, Yamaha PSR E-403.

Vadim also mentioned Yamaha MM6, which is something between synth (keyboard with changeable sounds) and arranger (have classic Yamaha styles in 5 variations without intros and endings), and it has arpeggios.

BTW Yamaha Motif XS have 6633 arpeggios (not 'just' 4000) and about half of them follow chord changes.

The only way to have arpeggios while playing some TOTL arranger is to play it together with some synth.

The updated version of the PSR-E403 is coming this month - PSR-E413. It's not top of the line, but still is pretty cool. 100 arps (as opposed to 50 in the 403) Also has a knob for live control of filter, resonance, etc. Even has some decent "live", "cool", and "sweet" voices. Great little board as a companion to your setup... a bang-for-the-buck low-end board for only $230.

Tim

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