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#230011 - 03/25/08 08:17 AM How Many Keys? POLL!
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This poll is to determine how many keys arranger keyboard players want on their keyboard. Brand names are insignficant--just the number of keys.

When responding, please DO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS--JUST THE NUMBER OF KEYS.

This should be very interesting.

Gary

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#230012 - 03/25/08 08:19 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230013 - 03/25/08 08:20 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230014 - 03/25/08 08:22 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230015 - 03/25/08 08:23 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230016 - 03/25/08 08:24 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230017 - 03/25/08 08:24 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230018 - 03/25/08 08:29 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230019 - 03/25/08 08:31 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230020 - 03/25/08 08:36 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230021 - 03/25/08 08:56 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230022 - 03/25/08 09:01 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230023 - 03/25/08 09:10 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230024 - 03/25/08 09:11 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230025 - 03/25/08 09:23 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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130. 61 for the upper manual, 61 for the lower manual, and 8 for the presets.

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#230026 - 03/25/08 09:24 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230027 - 03/25/08 09:31 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230028 - 03/25/08 09:32 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Funny how the 76 people are mostly piano players...But would rather settle for a synth feel then a REAL piano feel where they can really play piano correctly ?
I dont get it

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#230029 - 03/25/08 09:36 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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maybe 63 if I want that last D

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#230030 - 03/25/08 10:06 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230031 - 03/25/08 10:07 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230032 - 03/25/08 10:24 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230033 - 03/25/08 10:41 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Quote:
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Funny how the 76 people are mostly piano players...But would rather settle for a synth feel then a REAL piano feel where they can really play piano correctly ?
I dont get it


It's like this: I'm ANYTHING but a piano player, and can manage nicely with 61. The question was which do we PREFER. As long as the weight and size doesn't get out of hand, the more keys the better. I won't even attempt to play fully-weighted keys. My right wrist wouldn't last a week, and I can't get the speed and touch needed to emulate instruments. Woops, Gary said no comments.
Sorry G.!
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#230034 - 03/25/08 11:12 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230035 - 03/25/08 11:15 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76 Keys

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#230036 - 03/25/08 11:23 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Come on..keep it fair...NO COMMENTS.



Donny started it!
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#230037 - 03/25/08 11:59 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230038 - 03/25/08 12:03 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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I want to learn to play 61 keys perfectly before adding more !

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#230039 - 03/25/08 12:05 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 , Will do it for me !



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I should also add , that , 61 key A/KB`s are all I ever played.

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#230040 - 03/25/08 12:21 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230041 - 03/25/08 12:41 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76 (or 88)

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#230042 - 03/25/08 12:46 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230043 - 03/25/08 01:38 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230044 - 03/25/08 01:54 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230045 - 03/25/08 02:02 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230046 - 03/25/08 02:24 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230047 - 03/25/08 02:43 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230048 - 03/25/08 03:06 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230049 - 03/25/08 03:12 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Interesting...16/16 so far!!

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#230050 - 03/25/08 03:48 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230051 - 03/25/08 03:57 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 I can afford
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#230052 - 03/25/08 03:59 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230053 - 03/25/08 04:00 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 - I already have a piano I can't play worth a crap.

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#230054 - 03/25/08 04:26 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230055 - 03/25/08 04:28 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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But I think a 76 Tyros would break in two if Yamaha were to use the same material it uses for the 61 key version.

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#230056 - 03/25/08 04:50 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:

When responding, please [b]DO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENTS--JUST THE NUMBER OF KEYS.


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#230057 - 03/25/08 05:07 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230058 - 03/25/08 05:20 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230059 - 03/25/08 05:23 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 Is enough for me, John C.

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#230060 - 03/25/08 11:59 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230061 - 03/26/08 12:09 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230062 - 03/26/08 12:33 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76 only if it was roughly the same size and weight as the 61.

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#230063 - 03/26/08 04:41 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230064 - 03/26/08 05:35 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Thus far, it's 22 and 22. Not a lot of debate on this one--some folks like 76 keys and some folks like 61 keys.

Now, after this very scientific poll, if you were a major manufacturer, would the above responses weigh heavily on your sales and manufacturing approach?

The only other figure I would like to see would be from Nigel--the number of active members, individuals who post at least once a week, so this could be put forth in a percentage.

Should be interesting,

Gary

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#230065 - 03/26/08 05:40 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230066 - 03/26/08 05:41 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230067 - 03/26/08 05:49 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230068 - 03/26/08 06:39 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230069 - 03/26/08 07:58 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76 - looks like 76 is pulling ahead. I hope Yamaha is taking some notes.. Oops! Sorry... Me and my big mouth. Shh!

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#230070 - 03/26/08 08:34 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230071 - 03/26/08 08:44 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230072 - 03/26/08 09:16 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230073 - 03/26/08 09:56 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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So this means if Yamaha sold 300,000 Tyros Units, they can increase their sales to 600,000 units simply by making a 76 key version! ;-)

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#230074 - 03/26/08 10:25 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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So this means if Yamaha sold 300,000 Tyros Units, they can increase their sales to 600,000 units simply by making a 76 key version! ;-)

[This message has been edited by kbrkr (edited 03-26-2008).]


Or possibly lose many sales because of the change.
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#230075 - 03/26/08 11:24 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Id like to know how many of the 76 people would like an "88"

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#230076 - 03/26/08 11:34 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230077 - 03/26/08 11:48 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Id like to know how many of the 76 people would like an "88"


Start ANOTHER poll, then!
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#230078 - 03/26/08 01:47 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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88 keys in included in the "How Many Keys" poll, but judging by the responses, no one wants 88 keys.

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#230079 - 03/26/08 01:56 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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OK so theres no REAL piano players here ?

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#230080 - 03/26/08 02:44 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230081 - 03/26/08 02:50 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Its a shame with all this polling stuff ....Nothing will change, yamaha is probably getting a kick out of this for sure.

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#230082 - 03/26/08 04:24 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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One would hope that sometimes this information trickles through to them. With about a 50% ratio, and thats just on this forum, perhaps they could do some "serious" market research and who knows, maybe a whole new arranger keyboard segment could open up for them if they ADDED a 76 note option.

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#230083 - 03/26/08 04:57 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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1 more key please, then making it 13 keys.
That would be the key of H, right?
My singing stinks (can't sing Happy Birthday on key)
Maybe H will make me sound 'H'eavenly.


Seriously, 76 WITH an additional split point so that I can play, in 'split' second timing using a different instrument/voice settin, answering parts to the main right hand.

In example, upper (EXTRA OCTAVE) split set to a choir/vocal voicing to do Doo-wops, shoo-be-doops, etc.

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#230084 - 03/26/08 05:43 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230085 - 03/26/08 05:50 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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I am sure Yamaha has paid Big Money to research & Development teams to already find out everything that has been said here on this topic..there are other 76 choices out there to buy.....but with this cry-out it enforces that fact that Yamaha is the best sounding arranger out there....otherwise people would be happy with the other manufacturers 76 units....but Yamaha knows what it has.

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#230086 - 03/26/08 05:55 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Quote:
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1 more key please, then making it 13 keys.
That would be the key of H, right?
My singing stinks (can't sing Happy Birthday on key)
Maybe H will make me sound 'H'eavenly.


Seriously, 76 WITH an additional split point so that I can play, in 'split' second timing using a different instrument/voice settin, answering parts to the main right hand.

In example, upper (EXTRA OCTAVE) split set to a choir/vocal voicing to do Doo-wops, shoo-be-doops, etc.


Very Good!! A lot of people over look this use of an arranger if you have 76 keys
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#230087 - 03/26/08 06:11 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230088 - 03/26/08 06:29 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Discussion HERE if you want to keep the poll focused...
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/017280.html
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#230089 - 03/26/08 08:15 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230090 - 03/26/08 08:21 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230091 - 03/26/08 08:21 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230092 - 03/26/08 08:46 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76 or 88.

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#230093 - 03/27/08 09:35 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 is fine
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#230094 - 04/01/08 12:01 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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76..........................................!
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#230095 - 04/01/08 08:33 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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tastes GREAT !

LESS filling !

.sheesh .. is this STILL going on?
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#230096 - 04/02/08 05:25 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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#230097 - 04/02/08 06:03 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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61 on some songs & 76 on others

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#230098 - 04/04/08 04:08 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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so, did anybody count the results?
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#230099 - 04/04/08 06:18 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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The final tally is in! After an exhaustive, scientific compilation of the latest data the numbers are:

76 keys - 36 (correction)
61 keys - 32
88 keys - 3

Cheers,

Gary

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#230100 - 04/04/08 07:04 AM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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Sorry if I'm late:

76 !

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#230101 - 04/04/08 12:50 PM Re: How Many Keys? POLL!
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hm, what do you know!
obviously, the 76ers are not even that vocal after all, even though they are many! they are most!
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