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#167244 - 11/21/02 08:24 AM Tyros song capacity.
squeak_D Offline
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With all the newest synths and arrangers on the market, does anyone feel that Yamaha is still behind with the note memory for the Tyros? On the specs it's listed as 35,000... Anyone else think that may be be a little small given what's available today??? I was looking at the voice list and wanted to know if anyone has heard the "sweet" violin...?? I honestly love the solo violin on my PSR-550.. They added the vibrato to the sample at just the right time. Actually loved the sound of it so much on my keyboard I spent 1/2 hour adjusting the reverb, and DSP settings to make it even better.. Maybe it's just me, but I love the sound of a violin solo, and am quite pleased with the one on my 550.. The one on the Tyros has to be awsome!

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#167245 - 11/21/02 10:45 AM Re: Tyros song capacity.
svpworld Offline
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I have done the following test using the internal sequencer of the Tyros.

I decided to make a simple test. I recorded a song using a fairly complicated style to see if there was indeed any limit to how many notes could be recorded on the tyros to the user memory. I used the “BeBop” style with its amazing 32 bar long section, played various phrases of voices R1, R2 and R3 simultaneously, added multipads, fills, intros, you name it!! Incidentally the tyros doesn’t even flinch despite enormous “payloads” I put on it! By the time I reached 690 bars I was getting a bit tired, so I let the tyros carry on playing and made a coffee… Anyway I finished at about 1300 bars, I noticed though that the main display “bar” counter goes back to 0 once it reaches bar 999 and then counts up again… I saved the song to the user memory with a filesize of 261KB, smaller than expected… so I took it into a sequencer to count the total events as 36,152.. Didn’t think this was enough for a test so I went back and created another song, this time using the casatschock and big band samba styles which contains many notes per bar, and recorded at 227 bpm a very long and intense midifile! After about 1500 bars I received a “memory full” error and the tyros stopped recording, so I attempted to save what I had recorded and analyse it. 345,831 bytes long was the file, Cakewalk reported 53,756 events in total.

I figured out that when recording a song, the tyros does not record directly to flash memory, but to a separate area of RAM. Once you finish recording, you then need to save the song to the user flash memory. The song recording ram is obviously limited to about 350KB, I assume this is quicker and volatile memory compared with the flash memory.



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#167246 - 11/21/02 11:28 AM Re: Tyros song capacity.
Starkeeper Offline
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The PSR540 also has the Solo violin as well as the soft violin. Will have to have another listen.
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#167247 - 11/21/02 11:32 AM Re: Tyros song capacity.
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Maybe the sweet violin has that wonderful grating string sound when the bow attack is aggressive. This would be done with velocity on a keyboard.
Someone answer SqueakD's question please.
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#167248 - 11/22/02 08:30 AM Re: Tyros song capacity.
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Can anyone please describe the "Sweet Violin" on the PSR1000/PSR2000.

SqueakD, I tried the Solo Violin. It didn't do anything for me. I prefer the viola on my Roland EM20.
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