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#166496 - 04/05/07 04:19 PM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4716
Quote:
Originally posted by MarcK:
These keyboards are complex, sophisticated machines and it can take many months just to become familiar with the voices and styles and proficient with the functions and operations.


Marc,

I think you have articulated this well and I agree 100%. It takes ample time to find out the wonders of the product.

zuki
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#166497 - 04/05/07 04:26 PM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4716
Quote:
Originally posted by miden:
[B]best part about the 900 release is it will mean i can afford a 3000...B


Will be a happy day for you because the 3000 is "good enough" IMO.

zuki
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#166498 - 04/06/07 05:55 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
After re-reading all the comments on this post, both positive and negative, I took a few minutes to reflect on my experiences with Yamaha keyboards. Over the years I have yet to be dissapointed with any of the Yammies I've purchased--not a single one beginning with the PSR-500. I cannot say this about some of the other brands I have owned, even those touted as high-end boards. I'm sure a small fraction of those who will be purchasing the PSR-S900 in the near future will have something negative to say about the keyboard, but you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a huge number of very satisfied individuals that will really have fun with the S900 as well. I'm equally confident that there will be loads of questions about the keyboard's newer features and operating system, and hopefully there will be a few folks that will take the time to explore all the possibilities the S900 has to offer.

Cheers,

Gary

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#166499 - 04/06/07 06:10 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
Look, I'm not a whiner.

When the PSR3000 came out, I was raving. I did complain quite a lot about the absence of Vocal Harmonizer on/off, Effect on/off, and Voice Harmony on/off switches. The absence of these switches makes my job as an entertainer more difficult - plain and simple.

When the PSR2100 came out, one year after the PSR2000 came out, I complained. There was essentially no difference between the two keyboards. There were maybe 20 new voices and that was that. Furthermore, they didn't incorporate the new voices into the old styles - only the 10 new styles that came with the keyboard. The PSR2100 was a lame improvement.

I'm sorry, but with the explosion in new technology, the PSR S900 is a lame improvement. They didn't even fully incorporate technology that is two years old - the voices that are on the Tyros II. They didn't even add the drums that are on Tyros I. They apparently didn't add any new features. They are pretty much saying that the development of the arranger keyboard is over - just add a few voices. Keep the buttons the same, take away a few inputs. Same speakers, same vocalizer, same display, same buttons. Just change the look a bit and add a few extra voices and charge the same money.

Are they doing that with cell phones? Are they doing that with MP3 players? Are they doing that with Tv's? Are they doing that with satelite radios?

Sure the PSR S900 will be a great sounding keyboard. My clients are impressed by the PSR3000. But I expected some innovation and more inclusion of old technology.

Beakybird

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#166500 - 04/06/07 06:45 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
I couldn't agree with you more Beakybird! You made some very good points. I will say this though. I tried the PSR-3000 and it wasn't for me. Two things I absolutely hate about the current PSR models is 1: The cheap "painted plastic buttons" 2: The cheap pitch and mod wheel they've been using for YEARS and refuse to change.

Looking at the S900 it makes me wonder if they went back to the rubber buttons. Plus I see they're NOT painted either. I do however see they still use a the poor pitch and mod wheels. I never thought I'd see the day that a Casio would have a better set of wheels than the upper mid range arrangers from Yamaha.

Squeak
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#166501 - 04/06/07 07:29 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Miden....I dont agree the 3k will hold its own ...because even though the s900 is new it only sports a FEW minor upgrades vs the 3k & IMO people will hold on to their 3k's longer in a big disappointment pattern until the air clears & Yammy releases something totally upgraded from either T2 or 3k....Im still bewildered on what was Yammys purse for releasing the S900/S700/S500 line? With everyone else on their heels I think they blew a very good chance to leap ahead of the competition big time.

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#166502 - 04/06/07 07:38 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Beaky....I feel your pain...although the 3k has been doing its job in the trenches for so many for the last few years ...I feel we might have to wait at least 3 or 4 more years before we see some real upgrades & beyond belief improvements vs years past when we could hope for new models every 1 or 2 yrs.....as technology keeps advancing the harder it s & the longer it lasts on the market in sales which trickles down to us pros ending up with units longer then we're used to, but that's not a bad thing if your pleased with the sound & styles & can work with the unit & just have to be patient with the flow of manufacturers progress in production speed......its a big game we been playing since its inception....make music ....be happy, make people happy, be patient, look at the whole picture, & have fun out there.....meanwhile the good part is we have the future to look forward to

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 04-06-2007).]

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#166503 - 04/06/07 09:23 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
MarcK Offline
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Registered: 07/27/01
Posts: 205
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
The thing is, until Yamaha raise the bar even higher with a T3, and newer, better capabilities, raising the bar TOO high on their mid-line arrangers is only going to scavenge sales of their TOTL arranger... Not something I think they want to do.

Wait until there's a T3, and I guarantee the NEXT mid-line PSR will be closer to T2 capabilities.

Well sure, but by then everyone will be whining about it not being just like the T3....it's like saying that the PSR-3000 was closer to the Tyros I than the PSR-2100 was..... (IIRC the T1 was out before the 2100?)

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#166504 - 04/06/07 11:33 AM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
yes dnj, you are probably right...i guess the e50 is looking better and better, from a price perspective..out here its a little less than the current street price of a used 3000...so i was hoping that would change but the point you make is true, at least judging from the comments on this forum, so far.

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#166505 - 04/06/07 12:07 PM Re: Breaking News - PSR S900/700/500 Official Specs
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
I should have a PSR-S900 in the near future, but since everyone seems to know all about this instrument(all without playing, or even hearing it) there won't be any point or need to post anything about it.

Seems to be a lot of psychics around this place.

Ian


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