Hi
http://www.rolandkeyboardclub.com/v/prod_detail.php?id=224&selected=3&pagina=1

Thanx for the link .....mny have been waiting for these, I hope to hear more soon.

look at that!...
they did it after all!
thanks nielshs

that's not bad either!!

They kind-of did it. IMHO a few highly orchestrated demos does not give me a feel for what the instrument sounds like. Compare this to the yamaha site for Tyros 2.

Some real world demos from the manufactures would be nice for a change. You can read on this forum about Yamaha's disinterest in a 76-key arranger because the main market is the home-user/hobbiest. However, the demos provided by Yamaha and Roland are these pro-level, wiz-bang, sounds-really-cool-but-you-will-never-be-able-to-make kind of demos. The only place you see real-world is the videos of live demos when you can watch hands and see how much is playing vs. button pushing.

I think it's great that these keyboards have the capability of performing complex arrangments. However, the manufacturers do a disservice by not clearly delimiting between what can be easily done and what takes significant effort to produce.

But what do I know? They sell a lot of keyboards and I don't. Now that I think of it, they shouldn't change a thing. Because if they did, I wouldn't get the opportunity to buy the like-new keyboards on Ebay of people who don't understand what they are getting, get frustrated, and then sell them.

[This message has been edited by RobertG (edited 05-10-2006).]

Roland E-80: 61 note keyboard; 49.60 LBS (22.5KG) !

Scott that includes the built in 94 watt sound system[I think that is only 17 lbs more than your Tyros2 without the speaker set up]..
If the sound system is good[?]..50 lbs is nothing to carry..

Even if this was one of the best keyboards around...After years of luggin' around the Psr-9000, I got to where it was an extreme burden to transport the board. I had added a couple of pounds to the 9000 in customized item that I installed. I have to say that the weight was enough to really hurt my hands if I had to carry it very far. No more heavy weights for me!:O


Dennis L. Almond
aka...TwoNuts

Dennis , I like wheels on my cases..

I wasn't terribly impressed by those demos. I was impressed with the arrangements, but I thought the Big Band sounds were kind of cheezy. On the Orchestral piece, the Timpani drums sounded like a low register Machine Gun from the GM bank of sounds.

The Contemporary track did a good job of sounding like Pat Metheny with a very nice vocal patch.