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#162596 - 10/29/02 04:42 AM new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Registered: 09/28/02
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Hi
Do you know this new kb? You may see it on:
www.yamahasynth.com/pro/pf1000

It seems as a mixture of a PSR2000 into a digital piano. Or like a CVP203 with only 31 kg. (68 lbs) without keyboard stand.
Some features are:

• Superb 88-key Graded Hammer Effect keyboard
• Dynamic Stereo Sampling for genuine piano sound
• Stereo Sustain samples and Key-off samples for added realism
• Huge selection of high-quality voices (308 panel +480 XG +16 drum kits)
• 259 professionally arranged accompaniment styles
.......


It is big (1430 mm.), but perhaps it is the great choice for persons which:
-love piano, piano feels, piano keys, piano sound.
-want styles, and a lot of sounds
-are home players, don't gig (because 61 lbs...)
-don't like PSR2000 piano voice, piano keys, etc

Perhaps some of you have seen or played it. I imagine its piano sound will be better than Tyros, is it?
I don't know its price, does is it similar to Tyros?

Cheers

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#162597 - 10/29/02 05:03 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Prices for the PF 1000 on Synthplanet.com:

Listprice : US$ 3539.76
Our Price : US$ 2047.79 (2528.4 EURO)
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#162598 - 10/29/02 06:49 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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I played the PF1000 at Guitar Center last Saturday. It is basically an arranger version of the PF500 with 320x240 display. I think of it as a portable Clavinova, boasting Yamaha's triple-strike piano sample. It may be the lightest piano that comes with the three standard piano pedals. At GC, the ticket price is $3k, whereas the PF500 is $2K. The PF1000 and PF500 have speakers that point upward from areas where we might otherwise want to stack piano music or drinks. Flash memory is only 1MB, if I remember correctly.

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#162599 - 10/29/02 05:09 PM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Clif Anderson:
The PF1000 and PF500 have speakers that point upward from areas where we might otherwise want to stack piano music or drinks.


You ARE kidding, right? Putting liquids on a $3000 piano?
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#162600 - 10/29/02 09:33 PM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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5 kids. I have an inexpensive Korg digital piano. Last time it stopped working, I had the keyboard circuitry changed--the old one had dried coke coating the conductors. I have also found a sandwich inserted into a VCR and yogurt rubbed into a camcorder. The 5 kids have 5 bunnies that chew through power and audio cables when they are let loose in the house. Kid and bunny resistance are important factors in my purchasing decisions.

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#162601 - 10/29/02 09:43 PM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
UD: Clif's definitely NOT kidding. I've been to his house.
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#162602 - 10/30/02 01:20 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Loc: Preston, Lancashire, England
Sounds like Clif need a real piano
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#162603 - 10/30/02 07:11 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
Clif Anderson Offline
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Yes, the "real piano" issue. We have had piano teachers come to our home to give lessons for the past several years. They, of course, would prefer that we have a real piano and have encouraged me to get one. I have considered buying one.

But I have hard time spending lots of money on a keyboard without a selection of voices. My kids enjoy practicing piano music using a variety of voices--it takes some of the tedium out of practice. While they are learning piano, they are also learning about synthesizers.

A Yamaha Disclavier would be a good "compromise", but they are too pricey. Anyway, dare I say this? I sort of think of pianos as musical dinosaurs.

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#162604 - 10/30/02 09:29 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Registered: 11/09/01
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Loc: Westfield, Massachesetts, USA
Now you've gone and done it Cliffie..a Dinosaur??? I get your point and do agree with you about the diskclavier. In a recording studio, or even on stage, they are easier to set up and sound better than those pianos that are not mic'd properly. But I'll take a Yamaha C-7, professionally set up over anything digital you can throw at me..any day...any time...any where...but..I myself would go the clavinova /diskclavier route for a studio/performance because I don't have the stage helpers or the know how on setting up a real piano.... Cheers b2

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#162605 - 10/30/02 11:04 AM Re: new arranger: Yamaha PF1000?
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Registered: 09/16/02
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Comon Cliff,
I started many years ago playing an organ, so I am not a pianist (hope I spelled that correctly). I have a friend who bought a second hand piano he got by trading his carpentry service. It's an old instrument, but it blows away a Yamaha PSR540, PSR550, PSR2000, EM55 away. Never tried a PSR9000,S90, or a motif. It would take 65 megs of wave ROM, for the piano sample alone, to sound anything like a real piano. A setup like Frank Rosenthall has, might do justice, but he has gigabytes of wave ROM on his computer. PSR2000 has 16 megs split on 800 different sounds.
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