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#145656 - 01/31/05 06:52 PM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Steve,

From my experience, always off is just fine most of the time. However, I really liked the way it was set up on some of the earlier keyboards, which had the provision to select the OTS independantly of the left voice. Didn't need to use the Freeze button, just selected the left voice I wished, then could go through the OTS for the right1 and right2 voices without affecting the left. Just made sense. That way, when I wanted that left voice, it was a single button push to turn it on or off, and when I progressed through the variations and OTS, that voice I selected was the one that played. I guess the folks in the engineering and design department figured that linking the left voice with the OTS was a good thing, and that would be true if everyone liked to use the same left voice for every song using that particular style. Unfortunately, this is never the case. Nope, they didn't call me about this one either! That's OK, I can work around it.

Thanks for your help,

Gary
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#145657 - 01/31/05 07:01 PM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
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Yeah, what he said.


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#145658 - 01/31/05 08:07 PM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
Uncle Dave Offline
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Always, always off. Unless it's a manual bass part, and in that case, the arranger is off too.
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#145659 - 02/01/05 09:28 AM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Steve,

Previously, I primarily utilized custom registrations files, but over the last year (or so), to provide a more spontaneous performance, switched instead, to calling up songs from a customized Music Finder database, playing 'on the fly', while utilizing the OTS (1-4) button presets.

I ALWAYS keep the LEFT voice turned "ON" because I believe playing left hand full chords (including rhythmic comping, fills & arpegios) an IMPORTANT aspect to creating a more impressively live sounding arranger keyboard performance.

For most playing situations, utilizing my Custom Registration workaround setup to freeze the LEFT voice (Acoustic Grand Piano) works fine, but there are often situations which I would have appreciated the ability to call up songs from the Music Finder and have the OTS presets not only automatically load the LEFT voice, but turn it ON as well. Any possibility of at least having this added (perhaps in Tyros II?) as a USER OPTION?

Steve, as long as I'm making requests, I continue to PRESS my request for enhancing the Music Finder feature to bring it too its MAXIMUM POTENTIAL. To start with, I strongly suggest that the song's 'KEY TRANSPOSE' setting be added.

Also, adding the ability for a MFD song record to call up (link to) a Registration Bank file, would provide many other important keyboard settings included in REGISTRATION, but not included in OTS.

In addition, link to styles & registrations located not only in the keyboard's USER area, but in the keyboard's hard drive and/or external storage device as well. If this isn't possible, than INCREASING the Tyros USER area storage capacity from the currently existing 3.3 MB, to 10 MB+, would allow us to utilize FAR MORE custom styles via the Music Finder. Because my keyboard's USER area memory has long ago been filled to capacity (with custom styles), I'm having to continuely delete many good exisiting 'custom styles' just to accomodate room for newer ones.

Thanks for listening.

Scott


[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 02-01-2005).]
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#145660 - 02/01/05 09:38 AM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
Steve,

I would like the this option in the Freeze/Registration settings in the Utility section. If I want it to be always on or always off, I think I should have the option to set it in ROM. Call it LEFT HAND LOCK.
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#145661 - 02/01/05 10:39 AM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
YamahaUS1 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 238
Loc: Buena Park, CA, USA
As I said, some people prefer it off. Let's hear opinions about whether it should default to on or off and/or what criteria we should use to decide which ones have it on and which off.

I'm not looking for suggested updates or new product designs. I've already passed along these comments and I can't tell you whether or not any of your ideas will be implemented in the next generation. But, if we don't get sufficient feedback on this L voice on/off default in the OTS issue, then it will continue to remain the way it is. That doesn't mean, let Scott ask me about it 20 times. Having 20 people give me their opinions once is much more effective.

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#145662 - 02/01/05 11:12 AM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Syracuse NY
I think the OTS should leave it alone. If I set it on it should stay on, if I set it off it should stay off, independent of the OTS
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#145663 - 02/01/05 11:27 AM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
YamahaUS1. I always use left hand on for all my playing. Usually either Strings.Piano.JazzGuitar. It would be nice if it stayed on once selected independent of OTS.

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#145664 - 02/01/05 12:00 PM Re: Tyros/PSR KB PRESET Styles:Why is OTS (1-4) "LEFT Part" on/off status always OFF?
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 1155
If I were to get a Yamaha keyboard again, I would want left hand on once I put it on and stays on even when I change styles. It should come off when I take it off. The user should be able to determine whether the default is on or off.
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