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#140886 - 08/27/06 10:32 AM Does this guitar sound ok???????
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
Need some opinions on this keyboard guitar backing I created. It's an 8 bar backing riff using a "Keyboard Strat" sound. I created it for something I'm currently working on. It's MP3--so it's not as crisp as the original Wav. it was converted from.

If anyone is interested in how I created it let me know--it was actually quite easy.

Thanks,
Squeak
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#140887 - 08/27/06 11:04 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
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If anyone is interested in how I created it let me know--it was actually quite easy.

Yes Squeak, I am very interested.

THanks, John C.
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#140888 - 08/27/06 11:48 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
fordtaurus Offline
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Registered: 08/21/06
Posts: 15
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I am a guitar player. To me it's kinda too clean and less dynamic. It's good enough for backing, but you can tell it's not played by a real guitar.

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#140889 - 08/27/06 12:00 PM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
squeak_D Offline
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Posted by fordtaurus:

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I am a guitar player. To me it's kinda too clean and less dynamic. It's good enough for backing, but you can tell it's not played by a real guitar.
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I'm a guitar player too There are several of us here. Actually I "intended" for it to be "clean" sounding. It was created soley for the purpose of "Backing Guitar". I could go much further with it, and add some delay, and fine tune a multi-effect for the sound, but I didn't create the sound to be "upfront" so to say. I wanted the sound to lack how should I say--a level of "cheese" you'd find on some boards , yet still sit well in a mix.

Personally I still have yet to hear a keyboard guitar that litteraly makes me have to change my underwear (however, some have come VERY close to doing it)--Rolands Guitar Mode is quite nice

Squeak
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#140890 - 08/27/06 12:09 PM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
Bruno,

Creating the backing part was really easy. I posted this because I still get quite a few emails from Zone members about "Synths" and what they can do in their setups along side an arranger keyboard.

With this backing guitar strum what I have to say is.. "NEVER underestimate the power of a synths arpeggiator!"

The joy of making this backing part was the control I had using my synths arpeggiator. I took a Strat sound--removed ALL effects from the start. I then chose a preset E-Guitar backing riff from the onboard arps on my synth.

The arp alone didn't contain any of the nuances (which is exactly what I wanted). I then added my own "pick" (strumming), and "string slide" between chord changes manually. This way I had complete control over the nuances within the looped arpeggiator.

After that I then added some reverb and chorus to thinken the sound a bit and make it sound a bit more spacious.

I know everyone's arrangers have mega voices and other models have voices similiar to that, but a synths preset and user arpeggiators can really blow your mind with the results.

Keep in mind though that when creating a custom arpeggiator..., we're talking about something that's a freakin fine science! I'm not master at it by any means, but know enough to get myself through it. A really good and detailed arp can take a week or more (even for an expert) to program.

Squeak



[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 08-27-2006).]
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#140891 - 08/27/06 01:00 PM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
TwoNuts Offline
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Registered: 05/02/02
Posts: 430
Loc: Vancouver, Washington. USA
Quote:
Originally posted by squeak_D:
A really good and detailed arp can take a week or more (even for an expert) to program.


I think this is the reason so many people find a great deal of satisfaction from arranger keyboards. Less time programming and more time playing. Workstation synths can allow a great deal of versatility but also require a great deal of time in many of the features they provide. Time I would rather spend in playing.


Regards,

Dennis L. Almond
aka...TwoNuts
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#140892 - 08/28/06 04:16 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 759
Loc: NY
I think it would work very well as a rhythm guitar in a mix. Nice job!
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#140893 - 08/28/06 05:48 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
Thanks Tracy! I worked it in a mix last night and man it really does sit well. I made a good decision to keep the strat clean sounding. The nuances aren't overbearing, and blend in very well with the drum and bass tracks.

Squeak
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#140894 - 08/29/06 05:14 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
Dnj Online   content
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Good job Squeak......
the multipads are a great way to add excitement into a style mix.
Glad to hear your enjoying your Psr3000 its a wonderful KB no doubt.

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#140895 - 08/29/06 05:41 AM Re: Does this guitar sound ok???????
George V Offline
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Registered: 01/09/05
Posts: 331
Loc: Sofia
Quote:
Originally posted by TwoNuts:
I think this is the reason so many people find a great deal of satisfaction from arranger keyboards. Less time programming and more time playing. Workstation synths can allow a great deal of versatility but also require a great deal of time in many of the features they provide. Time I would rather spend in playing.

Curious to know how much time it would take to develop a detailed arranger keyboard style from scratch.

George

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