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#124139 - 08/24/07 08:55 AM Collaboration, anyone?
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Has this ever been attempted before on this board? Was it sucessful? How was it done? Most importantly, is anyone interested? I'll take zero responses as a no.

What I had in mind is somewhat ambitious. An original tune(s) contributed by a SZ member, mostly fleshed out to give us an idea of what he/she had in mind along with a stripped down version for members to add tracks to. Preference given to non-keyboard instruments (like say Boo or Mo on sax, etc.). The project song could be chosen by consensus (style or genre unimportant). For the "working" version, try to record the drums seperately for mixing purposes. .Wav would be best but I guess we could work with mp3. Could be fun.

chas
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#124140 - 08/24/07 10:04 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
Dnj Offline
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I remember doing this a few years ago.....with some SZ'ers....either one player layed down a couple of tracks ....and then email ed to someone and they would lay down a track and so on ....or one person would play a song & someone would do vocals, or add a lead or whatever....its an interesting concept that could very well deliver amazing results in the end product. Go for it!

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#124141 - 08/24/07 11:18 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
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Chas, sounds like a fun project, but understand i would have to be led by the hand like a kindergarten kid thru the process..i have never done any recording of any kind except in a pro recording studio, i have not even sequenced and have no idea what to do. But this would force me to learn, so they say that's good for forestalling Jazzheimer's! i do have a big mac desktop in miami and
a new m-audio firewire interface someone gave me 5 yrs ago, and a neumann u-67 tube mic i got in the 80's and have used for vocals in pro studios..guess it should be good for sax, too. i'll be back there Nov 1. I'm game if
you are..

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#124142 - 08/24/07 04:06 PM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
Caragabal Offline
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Sounds good to me Chas.

Not being a good keyboard player I would like to colaborate with someone providing the backing.

To see what type of voice and music I sing please go to:- http://www.4shared.com/dir/419715/c9e66620/sharing.html

Living in hope.

Cousin Ken

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#124143 - 08/24/07 06:42 PM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
cgiles Offline
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Not sure how one goes about this. I'll check some of the recording boards that do this routinely and see what they suggest. In the meantime, if anyone has any ideas on any part of the process ie. free site for file transfer, format (wav, wma, mp3), song selection, etc., let's hear it.

chas
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#124144 - 08/24/07 08:38 PM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
Songman55 Offline
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Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
I would be interested.

Joe

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#124145 - 08/25/07 01:05 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
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Registered: 03/20/01
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Whenever someone hires me over the net to record something, I will usually have them send me a high bit mp3 llike 256 or 320 of the track. Then I will do my part, send them an mp3 back to them with my part mixed in. If they like it, then I will send them a wave of my part, so that they can put it back into their DAW and manipulate it.

The hardest thing I can foresee is how everyone will know what to play. I mean, will everybody work from just the original scratch track, or will one person at a time record, so that the next person who records will be able to hear what the first person did. Since it is just a "for fun" project, it probably doesn't make a lot of difference, but it would seem to me to be a bit hard to know how much or how little to play, if you don't know who and what else is going to be mixed in.

One thing is certain, there should be one person who receives all the files from all the players, who is compotent at editing and mixing, so that he can create the final project; taking out parts that turn out not to be necessary, properly EQ'ing, panning, assigning effects, etc.

And another important thing to note, do not trim your waves. Even if you only play for 30 seconds out of a 3 minute song; export a wave that is exactly as long as the original song file you received. Yes, it will take up a lot more bandwidth to upload and download, but it will be infinitely easier to re-compile so everything stays in the same place in the timecode.

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#124146 - 08/25/07 07:22 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
Fran Carango Offline
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Sure sounds like Rory volunteered..
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#124147 - 08/25/07 07:51 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Well, Fran, sure sounds like a good base to start from. I checked a few "free" file storage sites and 4Shared.com seems to be the most generous with free storage, bandwidth, etc. I don' think this is going to be the problem. I think the problem is going to be getting a concensus (especially on this board ) of what song, what genre, what style, etc., to do. For a pilot run, it might be best to just make a command decision and pick something. The resulting furor should help sort out what SHOULD have been picked.

In the meantime, I'll sign up for 4Share. I'm guessing those that want to participate would have to sign up as well (for uploading). In the meantime, keep those suggestions coming (especially for song choice - OR, submit a sketch of your original.

As I said, the parts submitted would hopefully be of an acoustic instrument that you play, but instrumental parts played on your keyboard or softsynth would be okay.

This will probably be a rocky start but if we just nurse it along, correcting mistakes and missteps as we go along, it could be a lot of fun.

Please suggest or submit (original) a song for the test run. If left to me, it will probably be too jazz oriented. I don't personally care what the genre is as I am not above putting jazz piano solo on top of a pop arrangement.

chas
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#124148 - 08/25/07 08:05 AM Re: Collaboration, anyone?
Dnj Offline
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For a first time starter try: why not just lay down a nice Jam progression eg: CFG etc. ....something easy a few chords....then let everyone else take a 16 bar stab at a solo lead with what ever sound they choose with their arranger......once that is completed ....then the next project can get a bit more in depth?

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