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#121365 - 08/25/01 10:52 PM psr 2000 or 9000pro???
merlin2812 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/01
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Hello,
The psr 2000 is coming out soon I guess (!!), and I was wondering about the differences with the 9000pro(other than numbers of keys, speakers...)
The 2000 will be pretty more affordable, so the question would be: what has the 9000 pro that really makes the difference????
Some people were comparing the 740 with the 9000, saying that the differences were not so great, what about now with the 2000??
It's really getting confusing!
And my last question: I see that the psr 2000 will have the score editing feature (wich is, to me, a GREAT tool, but nobody's interessed in it...), no way to have that feature on the pro????
Thanks to all for your answerss!

Merlin

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#121366 - 08/26/01 08:09 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
Beakybird Offline
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I don't think the PSR 2000 will really compare with the PSR 9000 Pro, but it might be a better run for the money.

The PSR 9000 Pro has about 40 more voices. Not that many, but significant if they're really great voices.

The PSR 9000 Pro has sampling capability.

The PSR 9000 Pro has more keys and semi-weighted keys and aftertouch. You're going to get a much better piano feel.

The PSR 9000 Pro has a hard drive (Or just HD capability?) where you can store many many styles, samples, and registrations. The PSR 2000 has flash rom: just 1 mb.

On the plus side for the PSR 2000, as compared to the PSR 740, it will have direct disk play from floppy. This is from a Yamaha rep, but I am waiting to get this confirmed. If this is not true, musicians will have to delete from their measley 1 mb of style rom (if it's full) during a performance in order to load a new style.

The PSR 9000 Pro takes expansion cards that expand wave rom and allow for such things as emulation of wind instrument sounds and killer organ sounds.

The PSR 9000 Pro has SCSI connection to the computer.

The PSR 9000 Pro has video out.

The PSR 9000 Pro has double the polyphany.

How can you really compare these two keyboards?

If you are mostly interested in onboard styles and sounds, it looks like the PSR 2000 will come pretty close to the PSR 9000. There is someone making a chart comparing these three keyboards.

I am planning on purchasing the PSR 2000 when it comes out (If it indeed has direct disk style play). I can just barely afford the PSR 9000 (If it's true that you can buy them in some places for $2000). But the PSR 2000 is much lighter, and since I do several music programs at some schools where I carry my keyboard in one hand and a box of musical instruments on a luggage cart, this would be a pretty tall order with the PSR 9000, when I myself weigh only 135 lbs.

So the two advantages of the PSR 2000 are: Much cheaper and much lighter.

[This message has been edited by Beakybird (edited 08-26-2001).]

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#121367 - 08/26/01 12:46 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
sk880user Offline
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I am assuming that the above comparison is valid and I would like to comment about them:

"The PSR 9000 Pro has about 40 more voices."

- The question is what quality and not how many! If those 40 new voices are truely superb and they are the best of the best, that is it. PSR9K is a different beast. but if the best sounds of PSR9Kpro are in PSR2k, even if PSR9kpro has 1000 more voices, it really does not matter. What is the deal? The best sounds of PSR9K are already in PSR740 (I heard them with my own ears) and therefore, they will be already in PSR2k unless Yamaha does something wrong.

"The PSR 9000 Pro has sampling capability"

-That is nice if you are going to do sampling. I do, so for me I will be needing it. How about yourself? Do you really need it?

"The PSR 9000 Pro has more keys and semi-weighted keys and aftertouch. You're going to get a much better piano feel."

- If you are buying PSR9Kpro for the piano-sake, do not bother. May I recommend, P80 or XV88 or Kurzweil's new controller? I tested the piano and it is lacking. The more keys are good but the less keys means portable and lighter ... I learned this the very hard way.

"The PSR 9000 Pro has a hard drive (Or just HD capability?) where you can store many many styles, samples, and registrations. The PSR 2000 has flash rom: just 1 mb."

- Harddrive is very nice and worth it. The flash rom is nice only if the user is equipped with flash burning utility onboard of the keyboard to add his own styles. Nevertheless, if the flash can only be updated by the manufacturer or by updating the OS, then it is useless for styles or sounds. 1meg is good for some styles and some sounds but does not count for professional storage.

"The PSR 9000 Pro takes expansion cards"

- I hate expansion cards. how about you make everything already installed and built in for the same price. That is a point against PSR9kpro.

"The PSR 9000 Pro has SCSI connection to the computer."

- big time big deal! people and companies are moving away from SCSI. How about built in CD-writer or 2GIG jazz drive.

"The PSR 9000 Pro has video out"

- nice, but I never used that feature although my keyboard is equipped with one.

"The PSR 9000 Pro has double the polyphany"

- PSR2k has at least 64 note polyphoney which is more than adequate for any professional keyboard.

"On the plus side for the PSR 2000, as compared to the PSR 740, it will have direct disk play from floppy. This is from a Yamaha rep, but I am waiting to get this confirmed. If this is not true, musicians will have to delete from their measley 1 mb of style rom (if it's full) during a performance in order to load a new style."

-- direct disk play is not good enough. The keyboard really needs memory-backed RAM or (harddrive and RAM). that is a big plus for PSR9kpro over all the PSR lines.




So in conclusion, Yamaha took away from PSR2k the one good feature that will make it blow away PSR9kpro which is: the harddrive and ram! So that is the question here, do you really need that harddrive?

P.S., also...did they add "copy", "cut" and "paste" to the sequencer? If not, do not count on the sequencer of PSR2k.




[This message has been edited by sk880user (edited 08-26-2001).]

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#121368 - 08/26/01 02:33 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
merlin2812 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/01
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Hello,

thanks for your replies... They are really usefull to me! Now, what about this:
MOTIF8+PSR2k VS PSR9Kpro???
It's almost the same price, I think, and the motif adds the 88hammer action, sampler, ram, great sounds...
I'm really getting lost with all the gears out there, and they all cost so much! This doesn't allow any mistake! And I don't have enough experience to find out the potential of a gear after a few hours testing. (that's why I find this forum so great!!!!!)
So I guess I will go for the psr2k, wich is not that expensive, to find out with my own ears what what an arranger can do. Maybe will I be then more qualified to find the right gear for my taste??? We'll find out by then!

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#121369 - 08/26/01 02:58 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
Beakybird Offline
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In my last post I stated that the PSR 9000 pro has numerous features that that the PSR 2000 will not have. I by no stretch of the imagination stated that these features are going to be useful for everyone.

The Cool! Sweet and Live voices that the PSR 9000 has are Yamaha's newest voices, and I'm sure they're fantastic even though I haven't heard them. I just know that the Sweet voices on the PSR 740 are incredible.

It would be ludicrous for someone to purchase a PSR 9000 Pro just for its semi-weighted keys. Who's going to do that? I merely stated that it was a feature that the PSR 2000 does not have.

And Mr. Sk880 user, just because you don't like to use expansion cards, should I not list it as one of the features that the PSR 9000 Pro has? The person who started this thread wanted to know what difference there was between the two keyboards, and I tried my best to answer his question. Should I have attempted not to list features that you, SK880user, do not desire?

I, myself, would never in a million years use a video out, but I thought that to answer someone's question, I should mention it.

For those who want many of these features: tons of voices and styles, a sampler, weighted keys, advanced sequencing capabilities, scsi out, video out, hard drive, ability to program multi pads and one-touch settings for each style, immediate access to which intros and endings, expansion card capability - for someone who wants all of these features without needing onboard speakers, and for someone with a lot of disposable income, the PSR 9000 Pro is the way to go.

If you want the onboard speakers or need something less heavy or have less money to spend, then the PSR 2000 is the way to go.

For someone who owns a PSR 740, direct from floppy style play is a great advantage. With the PSR 9000 Pro I believe you can play a style directly from floppy and directly from the hard drive. Of course, the Pro blows the PSR 2000 away.

If Yamaha gave the PSR 2000 a hard drive, many potential PSR 9000 customers would be buying the PSR 2000 and spending the $1000 saved on other things, like rent.

The PSR 9000 Pro has dozens of features that the PSR 2000 will not have. The PSR 2000 will have better price, onboard speakers, and lighter weight.

Larry


[This message has been edited by Beakybird (edited 08-26-2001).]

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#121370 - 08/26/01 05:00 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
svpworld Offline
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Well the PSR2000 has been set as a replacement for the PSR740. It offers a mid way step between the mighty 9000 and the 740, and adds quite a few of the sounds and features of the 9000. The 9000 pro is quite different to the 2000, the 2000 will have most probably 16MB of AWM voices whilst the 9000 pro I believe has 48MB.. quite a difference! The BIG difference that the likes of the 9000 and 9000 pro offer over the smaller keyboards is storage capabilities and expansion options. With the 2000 you wont be able to add anything on or expand the keyboard later, though you can add styles of course and edit the onboard sounds to some degree. THe 9000 and pro offer sampling so you can add new waveforms add then create new voices, though I can imagine the effort involved in creating just one decent sound would be enormous!
Certainly for me the only reason for choosing a 9000 or 9000 pro over a 2000 would be for the extra sounds. I dont see the need for harddrive storage and scsi, or video output. However saying that, I would like the extra polyphony that both the 9000 and pro offer, as 64 sometimes is not enough.

I love the 740, and I am sure the 2000 is going to be a great value for money replacement. Unless you have heard the extra sounds of the pro or 9000 and honestly think they are good enough to warrant the extra dosh, and you feel that harddrive storage or expansion with extra voice technology would be useful for you then the 2000 should be fine. The 9000 and pro are seriously heavy keyboards though, we are talking in the 20kg region!!! The 2000 will be around 1/2 that weight. Also another thing, the 2000 doesnt have aftertouch, nice though not really essential.

Simon



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#121371 - 08/26/01 08:32 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
Beakybird Offline
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Sorry for my rude reaction to Sk880user, incidentally.

I think that Merlin makes a good point that one can buy the Psr 2000 and another keyboard for the price of the PSR 9000 Pro.

For my studio, I purchased a Fatar SL 880 weighted key controller piano, Gigastudio, guitar samples, and a 2 gig piano sample. You can get the PSR 2000 and all this for less than the price of the PSR 9000 Pro, and the piano and guitar sounds I get are probably far superior.

Simon is very correct that these keyboards are quite different.

I wonder how the PSR 9000 Pro can have so much extra wave rom as compared to the PSR 2000, yet only have an extra 40 synth voices. Do these synth voices account for all that extra rom?

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#121372 - 08/26/01 10:33 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
TomTomSF Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beakybird:
...when I myself weigh only 135 lbs.


Wow! You are a small dude, Beakybird! I can see why you wouldn't want a 51 lbs. keyboard now!


And, Simon, don't you get tired of messing with dozens & dozens of floppies? Once you try a keyboard with built-in mass storage (HD, zip drive), you will begin to hate the floppy-disk shuffle. If only the 2000 had this...

Tom
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#121373 - 08/27/01 07:16 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
merlin2812 Offline
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Registered: 08/18/01
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Thanks to all of you, il really helps a lot to have your opinion! After all the good things I was reading about the psr 9kpro, I was just waiting to save enough money to get one. But now, I think about getting first a mid-range board to experience myself the things you all are talking about (imagine that I never sampled anything... My knowledge about it is just theorical...) Since the prices are hight, I always wanted to get the best, to avoid regrets... But buying a cheaper board will help me to wait, and to find what board 'll feet me best!
I hope I'm making the right choice. If you have other comments, don't hesitate!!!!

Thanks!!!!!!!!!

Merlin

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#121374 - 08/27/01 09:02 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
DonM Offline
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You can get a used laptop AND the 2000 for less than the 9K. Then you won't miss the hard drive. That's what I may do, but I wish I could have both keyboards. Maybe I'll get a 2000 and wait for the 10,000 Super-duper Deluxe Pro Plus. ... or GEM, ... or . . .
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#121375 - 08/27/01 09:03 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
sk880user Offline
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Dear Beakybird,

No problem friend. First of all, I want to thank you for spending the time to detail the difference between the two keyboards. Yes, you were expected to list everything 100% and no where in my post implied that you should only list some of them. My post is different than yours and has completely different purpose and different perspective. Your post lists all the features. My post simply comment on these features.

Some of those who are looking for recommendation, simply need the feature list. But others they might need more. I found out by talking to people that sometimes they want to know if this feature is useful, needed, or worth the extra money... so on and so forth. My post was simply that and of course from my own opinion and from my own perspective.

I have tested PSR740 and PSR9kpro. In my opinion, I found out that PSR9kpro is overpriced. Yes, I do like the extra features, but it is not enough to justify 200% price increase over PSR740. Now most people disagree (and some very strongly) with me and that is fine.

If I want to get a recommendation about a keyboard, I would like to hear both opinions: why this feature is not worth it and why it is worth it from totally different perspective. Mine was one of those perspectives.

By the way, I made a case for PSR9Kpro in terms of the harddrive, ram, and better sequencer.

Cheers

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#121376 - 08/27/01 09:53 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
DNA Offline
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Since user-sampling on the 9000Pro has come up several times on this and other threads, I'd like to put my 2 cents worth in on this subject. I've created a few sampled instruments, though I'm certainly no expert. I'm sure there are others on this list with as much or more experience in this area and I suspect most would agree that creating quality instrument samples is a very time consuming, sometimes tedious and frustrating experience even under the best of conditions.

My personal conclusion is that if it is possible to buy good quality sampled instruments, it is well worth whatever it costs. Otherwise, you should use the best analog instrument recordings available or the best mics and recording tools as well as the best sampling software.

Unfortunately, the 9000Pro does not import the commercial instrument sample formats (not even Yamaha), only raw AIFF and WAV files. Therefore, you can't use any of the fairly large collection of samples available.

Secondly, the sampling tools built in to the 9000 are very basic and I don't believe contain even simple crossfading capabilities. (I'm basing this on the 9000Pro Owner's manual.) This means that you probably won't be able to create decent looped samples of anything but the most simple waveforms.

I'd be interested in what 9000Pro owners have to say, but my opinion is that its limited sampling capability isn't likely to be of much value to most users and therefore isn't a good justification for buying the 9000Pro.

David Altekruse
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#121377 - 08/28/01 06:08 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
merlin2812 Offline
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Hi Uncle Dave,
I've red your post about psr9k VS 740, and understand your point. But, for a non pro use of a board, is the 9kpro a good board to play with, and do you beleave it worth its price? The real question is: for someone like me, who is not a professional, will I be able to enjoy the "+" that will give me the 9k compare to the 2k? I'm afraid to become frustrated by such a great board by lack of knowledge, missing the best parts of it... Whatever, tell me what you think!

Thanks,

Merlin

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#121378 - 08/28/01 06:13 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
sk880user Offline
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Merlin,

One good point that Uncle Dave mentioned is that 740 is not suitable for easy and convenient professional live performance. Let me give you an example. If you want to transpose, you must select the transpose button first, then you must increase it or decrease it and then you must press exit. This is too much work to do for one simple task. All other tasks are the same even changing the tempo! Of course, you can get used to it.

The good news is that PSR2000 seems to be redesigned. I looked at it and it has different layout. So I need to try it before judging it.

For myself, I want my 10 sliders, they make my life very easy.

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#121379 - 08/28/01 07:09 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
Beakybird Offline
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Merlin, I play the PSR 740 professionally, and it blows people away. Of course the PSR 9000 and 9000 Pro are superior keyboards, but they come with a big price tag difference. For me what has made them prohibitive is the difference in weight. I'm not doing one high paying gig a night like Uncle Dave is. I'm doing two or three gigs during the morning and afternoon hours.

I would think that the PSR 2000 would be more than enough for the needs and dreams of a non-professional player. That's my two cents worth.

Larry

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#121380 - 08/28/01 08:10 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
DonM Offline
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I have used both the 740 and the 9000 professionaly. Of course there is a difference, but not to the audience. Nobody noticed. The main drawback on the 740 to me was that the Vocal input wasn't as good, and the Harmonizer can not be muted by simply assigning a footswitch to that function.
I found a work-around by using Registration memories, but never was really satisfied with the vocal sound.
DonM

[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 08-28-2001).]
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#121381 - 08/28/01 11:16 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
Beakybird Offline
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I find the vocalizer on the PSR 740 to be adequate. The problem with the vocalizer, in most people's opinion, is not the quality of the harmonies but the lack of volume it's capable of putting out. Fortunately, the PSR 2000's vocalizer is supposed to have improved headroom and the capability of producing an extra harmony. It also has some dedicated buttons for the vocalizer, so it will be easier to make changes on the fly.

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#121382 - 08/29/01 01:35 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
COMALite J Offline
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Some comments on the expansion board thing. Beakybird wrote, “The PSR 9000 Pro takes expansion cards that expand wave rom and allow for such things as emulation of wind instrument sounds and killer organ sounds.” Then sk880user replied, “I hate expansion cards. how about you make everything already installed and built in for the same price. That is a point against PSR9kpro.”

Beakybird, the Yamaha system of expansion boards, now called MSPS (Multiple Synthesis Plugin System) and formerly called PLG (the individual cards still use model names beginning with PLG) is much, much more than just expanded wave ROM. Other digital instrument manufacturers (Roland, Korg, etc.) may be satisfied with using whole expansion cards to do work that a simple memory stick could do, but not Yamaha. While many of their cards do indeed include more wave ROM (most notably the PLG-XG and PLG-PF cards), not one of the cards is only wave ROM. All of them also add at least an additional effects engine, and all but the PLG-VH card also add actual sound generation engines. Even for the XG and PF cards, where the sound engines are just plain old AWM2 wavetable playback, that still means additional notes of polyphony dedicated to the new voices, leaving the 126 or whatever the 9000pro has still free for all of its own on-board sounds!

Sk880user, you miss the whole point of expansion cards, especially when done the Yamaha way: namely, cards can come out later to add features that did not exist when the unit was originally designed! Without expansion cards, to get such new features, you would need at least an outboard MIDI tone generator unit with the sounds or technology you want, and may even have to completely move up to a whole new keyboard! The first device that could take Yamaha PLG cards was the MU100R rack-mount Level 4 XG tone generator, and it did come with its two PLG slots already filled: one VL card, one VH card. Those were the only two cards that existed then! Since then, new cards have been made that were created long after the MU100R was designed, and yet not one of them is incompatible with the MU100R (though you would, of course, have to remove one of the two included cards to make room for it)! Saying that expansion cards are a bad idea for keyboards is like saying that expansion cards are a bad idea for PCs, and that PCs should already come with every possible function that you might ever want! (Note that every personal computer that ever tried that idea didn’t last long in the market unless and until they moved to the realm of expandability: one of the major selling points of the original 1984 Apple Macintosh with 128k of RAM was that it had everything built-in and would never need expansion! Now look at the current Mac G4s with their USB and FireWire ports on the back [the latter of which, by the way, are compatible with Yamaha’s new open mLAN standard, a vastly improved musical connection system: one mLAN cable is equivalent to upwards of 100 audio cables and up to 256 bi-directional MIDI cables — in any combination!], and as if that weren’t enough, they have PCI and AGP slots as well! Other examples of personal computers that never wised up in this regard, or did so too late, and so are no longer with us, include the Atari ST and the Timex Sinclair, etc.) Even if Yamaha put every PLG feature that exists now into the 9000pro, what about others that might be invented later (case in point: a card that added the synthesis power of the FS [Formant Shaping] series of synthesizers, that expands greatly on the older FM technology used in the current DX card — if Yamaha doesn’t release such a card within a year or two, I will be very disappointed in them!)? Without slots, there would be no way to add them!

On the other hand, why have to pay for still more features that you might never want to use? If Yamaha had added all the powers of the DX and AN cards, but you only play music from before the onset of rock, those features would be pretty much wasted on you. Yet you would be paying for them anyway. This applies to the PC world as well: if you don’t need a four-figure professional OpenGL 3D card, why pay for one? But if you do need one, buy it and plug it in!

And finally, the 9000pro actually does already contain the powers of at least two of the PLG cards: the XG and the VH, and perhaps the PF as well. You could still add those for more polyphony and effects engines in those respective areas, I suppose. And, I personally wish they had included the VL card functionality (if they can do it for PC sound cards based on YMF chipsets that retail for around $15, they could easily have done it to the 9kpro without too much of an increase in cost, though it would probably have required the somewhat more expensive circuitry found in the PLG-VL card, since the YMF chip makes the host CPU do much of the work), as that would have given a set of solo brass, wind, string, etc. sounds that would’ve put the Sweet voices to shame in not only raw sound quality but realistic expressiveness as well — not to mention the ability to make more such voices of your own invention, without sampling! Listen to the sound file I’ve posted links to in such Topics as “The Search for the Perfect Sax,” etc. for an example of what even the cheapest VL (my $15 PC sound card) can do.


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#121383 - 08/29/01 06:47 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
DonM Offline
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Joel,
Thanks for another illuminating explanation.
I tried a couple of times to return your call, but haven't caught you yet.
I want your advice about getting the 2000 PLUS a laptop for lyrics, midi file play, etc. Seems like this might be a good way to go until the Yamaha 10,000 arrives in a year or so.
DonM
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#121384 - 08/29/01 07:00 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
sk880user Offline
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COMALite,

First of all, may I thank you for the well written explanation of expansion card?


Although I agree with you about what expansion card does for Yamaha and the benefits of it. I still think there is some problems with it in terms of cost for the musicians:

1) We cannot compare the pc to Yamaha keyboard for the simple reason that Yamaha makes all of its own expansion cards and it charges the price it wants for them.

2) If expansion cards are used to add features not readily available and designed, that will be fine. But it seems to me that expansion cards are a way to make extra money by simply making certain features optional by simply not including them in the original design of the board anyway.

3)From my past experience with yamaha, those cards are very expensive even when their keyboards are overpriced anyway.


Expansion would be something nice if it is open to all manufacturers. This requires the following:

a) expansion cards are standardized in that all keyboards accepts the same cards. So you can buy Yamaha, Korg, Roland, GEM and buy those expansion cards and still work with any keyboard.

b) any company can manufacture them.

So you would buy a general keyboards with maybe 10 to 20 expansion slots and buy all the cards you want from any manufacturer depending on the price, quality and features.

But that idea, although it is ultra beneficial and super vital to the musician, will simply be not as profitable to those companies. It will lead to better products and lower prices on the expense of hurting the market share of those traditional companies. It will encourage new companies to enter and compete.

I thank you for your post again.

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#121385 - 09/04/01 11:07 AM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
sk880user Offline
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Uncle Dave,

very well-written post. I think it should be the conclusion for this topic, at least for me.

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#121386 - 09/05/01 10:58 PM Re: psr 2000 or 9000pro???
DonM Offline
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I was sort of excited about the 2000 after Yamaha released all the good stuff that SVP world posted. Then the Yamaha web site posted conflicting info. Nothing to do but wait and see.
The harmonizer must have a mute switch before I will buy one. The rest of it I can live with, even though they seem to have taken away the wonderful Groove switch that the 740 has.
DonM
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